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Old 02-12-2021, 04:12 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Yes but few for a pop. of half billion people.
The UK is manufacturing hundreds of millions of vaccines alone.

Oxford/Astra Zenaca is being manufactured in Swindon and Wrexham, Novavax on Teesside and Valvena in Scotland.

In all the UK has ordered 400 million doses and will manufacture far more doses than it needs itself, the idea being that it will give free doses to other poorer countries.

Whilst despite initial problems Europe as a whole has an impressive bio-pharma sector and this includes manufacturing.

Manufacturing COVID-19 vaccines - UK Parliament

Teesside 'buzzing' that Novavax vaccine will be made there - The Guardian

Large-scale coronavirus vaccine manufacturing begins in Scotland - GOV.UK

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Old 02-12-2021, 12:24 PM
 
Location: SE UK
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Yes but few for a pop. of half billion people.
I don't know about Europe but the UK is manufacturing hundreds of millions of vaccines across several different sites, the UK is only a small island you know! I believe there are also hundreds of millions of vaccines being manufactured on the continent too no? Is the US manufacturing more vaccines than Europe? I don't know the figures, however Israel is winning the 'vaccination' race you are imagining.
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Old 02-13-2021, 02:26 AM
 
Location: Alexandria, Commonwealth of Virginia
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I don't know about Europe but the UK is manufacturing hundreds of millions of vaccines across several different sites, the UK is only a small island you know! I believe there are also hundreds of millions of vaccines being manufactured on the continent too no? Is the US manufacturing more vaccines than Europe? I don't know the figures, however Israel is winning the 'vaccination' race you are imagining.
Israel and the UAE are poor benchmarks of success. The hardest part of mass vaccinations is the labyrinthine web of logistics that you need to ship millions of doses across thousands of miles.

Jerusalem to Tel Aviv is a 45 minute drive. Abu Dhabi to Dubai is 80 minutes. Both countries are dense with population following a linear distribution (Jerusalem-Tel Aviv-Haifa, Abu Dhabi-Dubai-Sharjah). They have it on easy mode.
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Old 02-13-2021, 12:27 PM
 
Location: SE UK
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Israel and the UAE are poor benchmarks of success. The hardest part of mass vaccinations is the labyrinthine web of logistics that you need to ship millions of doses across thousands of miles.

Jerusalem to Tel Aviv is a 45 minute drive. Abu Dhabi to Dubai is 80 minutes. Both countries are dense with population following a linear distribution (Jerusalem-Tel Aviv-Haifa, Abu Dhabi-Dubai-Sharjah). They have it on easy mode.
But traversely compared to bigger countries they also have a tiny population of medical professionals and scientists, its 'swings and roundsbouts'.
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Old 02-13-2021, 01:04 PM
 
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But traversely compared to bigger countries they also have a tiny population of medical professionals and scientists, its 'swings and roundsbouts'.
Israel has nearly twice as many physicians per capita as either the UK or US.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.MED.PHYS.ZS
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Old 02-13-2021, 04:43 PM
 
Location: SE UK
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Israel has nearly twice as many physicians per capita as either the UK or US.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.MED.PHYS.ZS
OK but its not just 'physicians' giving out vaccines though is it? Or else I sincerley 'doubt' that they would have vaccinated so many, there are dozens of issues regarding vaccinations from vaccine manufacture, orders placed, money spent, storage, availability, transportation, locations, city densities, volunteers, percentage of anti-vaxers, age of population, traffic on the roads etc etc! My original point is that the original posters 'boast' is just folley, there is NO world ranking when it comes to vaccinations and the fact is that Israel HAVE vaccinated the highest percentage of their population using whatever it is they've used to do it.
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Old 02-13-2021, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Brisbane
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The UK is manufacturing hundreds of millions of vaccines alone.

Oxford/Astra Zenaca is being manufactured in Swindon and Wrexham, Novavax on Teesside and Valvena in Scotland.

In all the UK has ordered 400 million doses and will manufacture far more doses than it needs itself, the idea being that it will give free doses to other poorer countries.

Whilst despite initial problems Europe as a whole has an impressive bio-pharma sector and this includes manufacturing.

Manufacturing COVID-19 vaccines - UK Parliament

Teesside 'buzzing' that Novavax vaccine will be made there - The Guardian

Large-scale coronavirus vaccine manufacturing begins in Scotland - GOV.UK
They will be also producing 50 million of these in Melbourne so I'd imagine a lot of them will be distributed around all the Pacific islands and new Zealand.


Most people will be getting the Astra Zenaca vaccine in Australia. The phitzer vaccine will arrive first, (in a couple of days from now apparently) a) but it will only be a compativly small batch given to front line health workers.

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Old 02-14-2021, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Australia
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They will be also producing 50 million of these in Melbourne so I'd imagine a lot of them will be distributed around all the Pacific islands and new Zealand.


Most people will be getting the Astra Zenaca vaccine in Australia. The phitzer vaccine will arrive first, (in a couple of days from now apparently) a) but it will only be a compativly small batch given to front line health workers.
First lot of Pfizer has arrived in Sydney a couple of hours ago. Roll out, to border and quarantine staff, aged and disability care staff and residents to start next Monday.

We were having a discussion with my sister and BIL last night about vaccinations. They live in Dubai and have all been vaccinated, including adult son. They think our government has been slack.

I said that the government wants people in places like Tassie, which has not seen a case of the virus for months, to be confident to be vaccinated. As they have little immediate need it is not a good idea to rush, people want to see that it is worthwhile and being properly administered. They admitted they had difficulty seeing it from our point of view as they have been so restricted for so long. Whereas are lives are currently pretty much back to normal.
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Old 02-14-2021, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Brisbane
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First lot of Pfizer has arrived in Sydney a couple of hours ago. Roll out, to border and quarantine staff, aged and disability care staff and residents to start next Monday.

We were having a discussion with my sister and BIL last night about vaccinations. They live in Dubai and have all been vaccinated, including adult son. They think our government has been slack.

I said that the government wants people in places like Tassie, which has not seen a case of the virus for months, to be confident to be vaccinated. As they have little immediate need it is not a good idea to rush, people want to see that it is worthwhile and being properly administered. They admitted they had difficulty seeing it from our point of view as they have been so restricted for so long. Whereas are lives are currently pretty much back to normal.
Personally I think the reason why the government is been a bit slack is that the virus is not much of a problem in Australia at all in the big scheme of things, and no doubt we have loads of red tape it getting these things approved. In Queensland 6 people have died from it, more Queenslanders died from Chicken Pox last year than Coronavirus.
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Old 02-14-2021, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Australia
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Personally I think the reason why the government is been a bit slack is that the virus is not much of a problem in Australia at all. 900 people have died from it in the country since it became a problem, in Queensland the number is 6, the chances are it would be well below a lot of other diseases that no one has every even heard of.
Yes I am far more likely to be killed driving out of my driveway at home, where my vision is obscured by the trucks all the tradies park along the street.

What do think the odds are that Qld will slam its border shut to us again in the next three months? We need to go to Brissie and to the north on business and have now cancelled three trips. Awfully hard to work up the will to make a booking!
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