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View Poll Results: Europe's 3-7 or North America's 3-7?
Chicago, Washington, San Francisco, Toronto, Boston, Montreal 8 47.06%
Brussels, Berlin, Madrid, Moscow, Vienna, Amsterdam 9 52.94%
Voters: 17. You may not vote on this poll

 
 
Old 03-04-2021, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Essex County, MA
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Based on the "6 vs 6" thread currently on the subforum.

At least one other poster agreed that London and Paris swung that poll in favor of Europe. So I wondered "what happens if we remove the top two?" In that case, North America loses NYC and LA and Europe loses London and Paris. North America gains Boston and Montreal and Europe gains Vienna and Amsterdam.

DISCLAIMER: I do think that at least Mexico City should be in "North America's Top 8", but the OP of the other thread used the Kearney list as their standard so I'd like to do the same to keep things consistent. It doesn't have Mexico City in its top 30 for global cities.

Use any criteria you'd like. If possible, I'd like you to differentiate between any subjective (architecture, parks, vibrancy, etc.) and objective (economy, infrastructure, cost of living) criteria used.

Here's a link to the ranking: https://www.kearney.com/global-cities/2020

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Old 03-04-2021, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Essex County, MA
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OOP. Apparently I can't count. Title and poll should be "3-8" rather than "3-7".

If it were "3-7" North America would only gain Boston and Europe would only gain Vienna.

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Old 03-04-2021, 10:13 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Still Europe until you get Mexico City in there.
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Old 03-05-2021, 04:01 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Kerney fails to take in to account influences beyond business and politics.

For instance Europe is home Rome (including the Vatican) which is both a fantastic city, and an important influential city in terms of being the capital city of Italy and the centre of the Catholic religion and it'd 1.329 billion followers.

Whilst other than Washington DC, none of the North American cities the OP lists is even a capital city.

As for Moscow, it's not going to have a massive business score, due to sanctions imposed by the US and west.

In terms of financial business cities such as Milan (Lombardy Region) and Geneva/Zurich are more influential than the likes of Brussels and Vienna.

It is no coincidence, that London's equivalent of Wall Street is Lombard Street, which was originally a plot of land granted by King Edward I (1272–1307) to goldsmiths from the part of northern Italy known as Lombardy, who helped found the banking industry in the city.

LOMBARD STREET AND THE EARLY HISTORY OF LONDON BANKING

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Old 03-05-2021, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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It's like pitting one culture against six. It's a total mismatch. I'd take the Europe group for touring and for quality of life all day.
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Old 03-05-2021, 09:14 AM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area, California
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Europe.
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Old 03-05-2021, 12:45 PM
 
Location: NJ (Prv. SYR, BOS, NYC, GSO, MCO)
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Ive been to all 12 of these.

I prefer living in the American group because I love Chicago and Boston...

I think the european group is better but my boss and envy got in the way.
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Old 03-22-2021, 09:06 AM
 
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Sometimes I wonder if those who make these lists have ever been here. Toronto and maybe Boston are the only two I might consider living in. I worked in Chicago for a year and a half. The most common sentiment my co workers expressed was that they wanted to move somewhere not named Chicago.

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Old 03-22-2021, 09:36 AM
 
Location: NJ (Prv. SYR, BOS, NYC, GSO, MCO)
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Sometimes I wonder if those who make these lists have ever been here. Toronto and maybe Boston are the only two I might consider living in. I worked in Chicago for a year and a half. The most common sentiment my co workers expressed was that they wanted to move somewhere not named Chicago.
That's pretty ignorant.
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Old 03-22-2021, 10:30 PM
 
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That's pretty ignorant.

Exactly. I have worked in downtown Chicago for a very long time and I have yet to hear somebody say they want to move away from Chicago-- unless they are complaining about the weather (which is a relevant gripe). Most Chicagoans know they're blessed living in a vibrant, blessedm culturally relevant world city-- without the cost of living you get in other parallel cities. There are certainly tradeoffs-- awful politicians, taxes, crime -- but all in all, it's pretty special compared to most other American cities. No idea who that poster was hanging out with.
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