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View Poll Results: Who do you support?
Palestine 58 28.16%
Israel 148 71.84%
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Old 07-05-2023, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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Then stop referring to America as in anyway impartial
When have I referred to America as impartial? America supports Israel because it's a successful democracy, dynamic economy, and a reliable partner. Which other country in the Middle East can say that about themselves?
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Old 07-05-2023, 10:06 AM
 
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When have I referred to America as impartial? America supports Israel because it's a successful democracy, dynamic economy, and a reliable partner. Which other country in the Middle East can say that about themselves?
Not you personally, the American government claims to be an unbiased facilitator of a peaceful solution
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Old 07-05-2023, 03:31 PM
 
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When have I referred to America as impartial? America supports Israel because it's a successful democracy, dynamic economy, and a reliable partner. Which other country in the Middle East can say that about themselves?

And they also supported or support Saudi Arabia or Talibans or whatever because of how reliable and democratic they are...
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Old 07-05-2023, 03:38 PM
 
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Israel also flourished economically in the past 20 years while Israel's enemies remain complete losers. Why wouldn't Washington support Israel unconditionally?
Oh that is just great, the Parasite Israel is doing great by sucking off its gracious and blind host America causing it to lose the past 20 years as well.

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Your title is misleading. There is no country called Palestine. The West Bank is an autonomous area attached to the State of Israel (meaning it is still part of Israel). Therefore an Israeli military operation there is not an invasion of Palestine!
He never said Palestine is a country. The word invade is not exclusive to country on country.
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Old 07-06-2023, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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I would particularly want to hear Christians point of view. Lots of American Christians tend to take Israel’s side because apparently, they are God’s chosen people. But they also say that Jews killed Jesus so that can be a confusing one

Well, Jesus was Jewish, so there's that.



More recently, there was the thought provoking exchanges in religious construct surrounding the Holy Land in the Crusades and the Iberian Peninsula and the rise of the Ottoman Empire.



More recently still have been an array of antisemitic events ranging from the progroms to a straight up goal of eliminating Jews via the Nazis.


Even more recently there's been extreme jihadists taking strange teachings to lead assaults on the US culminating with the embarrassing loss in Afghanistan.



All in all, if one tallies up the scores in a wholly unuseful characteristic, its that when Christians fight the Jews, the Jews tend to take the worst of it. The same can be said for the Muslims, but they tend to hit a little harder.



None of which plays into today's Palestine vs Israel account. Israel has built a land any religion can visit and appreciate and is a trading partner that contributes to world development. Palestine is a sponsor of underhanded terrorism. No brainer on who to support.
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Old 07-06-2023, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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And they also supported or support Saudi Arabia or Talibans or whatever because of how reliable and democratic they are...
Lol, nice try. The US tolerates Saudi Arabia because it's got too much oil and worked with Taliban during the Cold War against the Soviet Union. Israel has been committed to democracy since its establishment.

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Oh that is just great, the Parasite Israel is doing great by sucking off its gracious and blind host America causing it to lose the past 20 years as well.
Lmao the delusions are real with you. Read a ****ing book.
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Old 07-06-2023, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Milky Way Galaxy
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Your title is misleading. There is no country called Palestine. The West Bank is an autonomous area attached to the State of Israel (meaning it is still part of Israel). Therefore an Israeli military operation there is not an invasion of Palestine!




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6f6G4ROKxU
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Old 07-08-2023, 05:15 AM
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Al Jazeera is quite biased and not an objective source.
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Old 07-08-2023, 08:23 AM
 
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Al Jazeera is quite biased and not an objective source.
You're just saying that because you know Israel stole all of Palestine's land! Israel is an autonomous area attached to the State of Palestine!
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Old 07-08-2023, 06:36 PM
 
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You're just saying that because you know Israel stole all of Palestine's land! Israel is an autonomous area attached to the State of Palestine!
What a strange way you have of turning the truth. First of all don't post a youtube link without at least summarizing what the video is about. No one is going to click it (I guess one tried and bailed when he found out it was Al Jazerra). Don't be lazy, put some text to explain the video.

Anyways explaining Israel as an autonomous are "attached" to Palestine defies the reality. Israel is a nation, the "state of Palestine" is defined as those areas of the Levant occupied by Israel (not Israel itself) and autonomously (to some degree) governed by the Palestinian National Authority...i.e. Gaza, West Bank, Golan Heights. Gaza is controlled really by the Hamas terrorist group of course. Of course the international legal status of these occupied territories is in dispute.

Now in using the words "Israel stole all of Palestine", without getting into too much ancient history, in 1949 the borders were established by Israel, Egypt, Jordan, Syria as a result of the 1948 Arab war and the defeat of those Arab nations. Hey when you send in your military with the intention of killing every Jewish man, woman, and child, and lose that war, there are consequences. Blame those Arab countries. Again in 1967's 6 Day War the same thing happened and Sinai, West Bank, and Golam was seized in the act of pushing back Arab forces who were attacking Israel. Such are the fortunes of war. Sinai was later returned to Egypt except for Gaza. And West Bank? That was part of Jordan. Jordan gave up all claims to it, they don't want it. So here we are, but the point of this is to call it "stolen" is an extreme stretch.

I have a question for you. Why aren't the Palestinian's protesting Jordan when they also using your definition "stole" Palestinian lands? Actually, all Arab countries "stole" Palestinian lands by first occupying the lands themselves and then giving them away to Israel after this or that military defeat.
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