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View Poll Results: Who do you support?
Palestine 58 28.86%
Israel 143 71.14%
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Old 11-13-2023, 11:06 AM
 
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How can it have nothing to do with human shields? It has everything to do with it. Hamas command center was built under a hospital for pete's sake.



I worked for a Dutch company, many of my friend are Dutch. But there is no denying your nations complicity in the holocaust. It's sad that your own police...not the Gestapo, not the SS, not German police...but Dutch police collected jews and shipped them out to the gas chambers. Yes your nation had the resistance but you had one of the largest percentage of nazi collaborators as well.



Huh? LOL, where in the world did that come from? Dude, I am part black. I don't hate any of the above.
In my opinion excessive violence is and has been used. I think enough blood has already flown and the sooner the fighting stops the better.

We might not agree on this matter but that is fine with me. I can respect people who come up with good arguments but have a different opinion than my own. Unfortunately, discussions like this have a tendency to become a bit heated sometimes.

Although the ww2 subject is indeed a bit off-topic I would like to respond to that.

In many European countries, including mine, there was already a political party supporting the German Nazi policies before the war started. These people were looked down upon and weren't appreciated by the vast majority. When the Germans invaded they became much more in control, with all the consequences. Also some of the more opportunistic people joined the dark side, which was expected. Collaboration happened in all the occupied countries in some shape or form and many came away with it, unfortunately.
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Old 11-13-2023, 11:23 AM
 
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In my opinion excessive violence is and has been used. I think enough blood has already flown and the sooner the fighting stops the better.

We might not agree on this matter but that is fine with me. I can respect people who come up with good arguments but have a different opinion than my own. Unfortunately, discussions like this have a tendency to become a bit heated sometimes.

Although the ww2 subject is indeed a bit off-topic I would like to respond to that.

In many European countries, including mine, there was already a political party supporting the German Nazi policies before the war started. These people were looked down upon and weren't appreciated by the vast majority. When the Germans invaded they became much more in control, with all the consequences. Also some of the more opportunistic people joined the dark side, which was expected. Collaboration happened in all the occupied countries in some shape or form and many came away with it, unfortunately.
Hey after I saw post #645 I think it is, basically praising HAMAS (the one saying "I congratulate the Palestinian freedom fighters, and wish them well!"), everything else from anyone else is OK. We had another saying that Hamas using human shields was fake news...so you get all kinds. Nothing bothers me. Continue on with your opinions, no problem.
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Old 11-13-2023, 03:44 PM
 
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A slap in the face that IDF soldiers risked there lives to provide fuel? They probably did it by stuffing armored carriers full of fuel cans, a dangerous mission in a combat zone...you can guess that a tanker truck wouldn't last a few hundred yards in Gaza without a Hamas RPG hitting it. Anyways the fuel was apparently delivered but Hamas appears to have taken it. Hamas also has hundreds of thousands of gallons of fuel in storage that they are using in their rockets.

By the say, most of Gaza's fuel came from Egypt before the war, mostly to supply Gaza's own power plant. You should ask Egypt why they cut them off.
I guess you didn't see the pictures today of the dead babies at the hospital....heartbreaking...
Bibi has blood on his hands....not that he cares...

Believe it or not....there are rules of war ....and Bibi / IDF have broken some of them....

How many IDF troops have been killed so far? ....does anybody know?
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Old 11-13-2023, 04:27 PM
 
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Why I still think the Hamas `s HQ is under the al-Shifa Hospital. 100 ft down and maybe the hostages are in there to .
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Old 11-14-2023, 02:55 AM
 
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The Israeli military is calling on Hamas to surrender its bases in and under Shifa Hospital in Gaza on Monday, despite Hamas denials that it has such a base. Fighting has centered around the hospital for days as patients suffer a lack of resources.

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/no...rael-hamas-war
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Old 11-14-2023, 03:57 AM
 
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A slap in the face that IDF soldiers risked there lives to provide fuel? They probably did it by stuffing armored carriers full of fuel cans, a dangerous mission in a combat zone...you can guess that a tanker truck wouldn't last a few hundred yards in Gaza without a Hamas RPG hitting it. Anyways the fuel was apparently delivered but Hamas appears to have taken it. Hamas also has hundreds of thousands of gallons of fuel in storage that they are using in their rockets.

By the say, most of Gaza's fuel came from Egypt before the war, mostly to supply Gaza's own power plant. You should ask Egypt why they cut them off.
So why isn't independent aid sources delivering the vital fuel? Not sure just how the persecutor can double up as savior?
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Old 11-14-2023, 05:38 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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To me, it's quite simple.

Israel is a murderous state.
Those who support Israel are, thus, murderers.

There is a growing sentiment all around the United States, even in small cities and towns, to support the cause of the Palestinians. Finally!

I congratulate the Palestinian freedom fighters, and wish them well!
If you lived in Gaza or a "free Palestine" I doubt they'd be so kind to you.
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Old 11-14-2023, 05:40 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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The irony is that nazi propaganda seems to have been pretty influential in how Israel is dealing with this, as we're getting close to 10 times more gazan victims than the total number of victims of the Hamas Attack
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When will this massacre stop ?
When Hamas dons uniforms and fights in the open, and stops tunneling under civilian areas. Or as Golda Meir said, when they love their children more than they hate Israeli children.
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Old 11-14-2023, 05:43 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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In my opinion excessive violence is and has been used. I think enough blood has already flown and the sooner the fighting stops the better.
Enough blood to prevent another Arab attack on Israel? I doubt it.
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Old 11-14-2023, 09:53 AM
 
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Israel asks countries to send hospital ships for wounded Palestinians
https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-771338
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