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Old 12-01-2022, 02:10 AM
 
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A Chinese passport isn't even worth the paper it's printed on. That's why Chinese are paying millions of dollars for Golden Passports.

Without doing better research I would probably go with Japan, USA, EU, and Russia. A Russian passport isn't great, but it's better than a Chinese passport, and would probably get you into most of those Eastern Block countries.
The problem is that China is not visa-free for most countries .It's hard to get into China with an American passport and a Russian passport.
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Old 12-01-2022, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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The problem is that China is not visa-free for most countries .It's hard to get into China with an American passport and a Russian passport.
Since when? The VISA process to get into China may not be "on arrival" or free, but I didn't find it cumbersome either.
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Old 12-01-2022, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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The problem is that China is not visa-free for most countries .It's hard to get into China with an American passport and a Russian passport.
Yeah, but a Russian passport gets you into 119 countries. A Chinese passport gets you into just 80. Those 80 are just random Third World countries, that pretty much anybody can visit.

It is true that Americans and Russians both require visas to visit China. But there are more exceptions for Russians. For example Russians don't need a visa for 30 days when visiting China as part of a tour group. That option is not available for Americans.

One plus for a Chinese passport over a Russian passport. At least Chinese are not totally banned from visiting any countries. Which is becoming a problem for Russians trying to visit the EU. Russians living in the Kaliningrad Oblast can't travel any direction by land. They have to come and go by air or sea.
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Old 12-02-2022, 08:34 PM
 
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Yeah, but a Russian passport gets you into 119 countries. A Chinese passport gets you into just 80. Those 80 are just random Third World countries, that pretty much anybody can visit.

It is true that Americans and Russians both require visas to visit China. But there are more exceptions for Russians. For example Russians don't need a visa for 30 days when visiting China as part of a tour group. That option is not available for Americans.

One plus for a Chinese passport over a Russian passport. At least Chinese are not totally banned from visiting any countries. Which is becoming a problem for Russians trying to visit the EU. Russians living in the Kaliningrad Oblast can't travel any direction by land. They have to come and go by air or sea.
You can buy an American passport with money.I have lived in Japan for 10 to 20 years. I can also get a Japanese permanent residence permit.Most developed countries in the world can get any passport as long as I have money.So their passports themselves are worthless.Chinese passport even if you are rich Even American born Chinese do not acquire Chinese nationality. If you don't have a passport You don't get a lot of benefits from China when you are in China, because you will always be an outsider。You have an American British passport. You may not be able to enter North Korea, Iran and Iraq.Many Middle Eastern countries. Many of them don't like Westerners。
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Old 12-03-2022, 05:55 AM
 
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You can buy an American passport with money.I have lived in Japan for 10 to 20 years. I can also get a Japanese permanent residence permit.Most developed countries in the world can get any passport as long as I have money.So their passports themselves are worthless.Chinese passport even if you are rich Even American born Chinese do not acquire Chinese nationality. If you don't have a passport You don't get a lot of benefits from China when you are in China, because you will always be an outsider。You have an American British passport. You may not be able to enter North Korea, Iran and Iraq.Many Middle Eastern countries. Many of them don't like Westerners。
How in the world does that make a passport "worthless?"
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Old 12-03-2022, 10:39 PM
 
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How in the world does that make a passport "worthless?"
For example .You can find a beautiful woman with money .But some women can't buy her love with money。 People from any country can get American passports.So the real value of the American passport is less. If a passport can be bought with money, its value to me is very low. It looks gorgeous, just like a beautiful woman。
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