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Old 10-07-2023, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Somewhere on the Moon.
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That is irrelevant as most slavery was not solely based on race as it were in the Americas.
Jamaica and the USA are in the Americas. This is not irrelevant at all.

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African countries utilized slaves to build their empires after they conquered a country, not because they believed they were racially superior and felt it was in their destiny to rule over a different race of people.
Where in the Americas is Africa?

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Like, you honestly believed not being able to enter a barbershop is tantamount to having your genitals mutilated, sexually/physically assaulted, kept emaciated and overworked.
And yet, places that never had racial segregation have better race relations than places that did. Case in point, Jamaica vs the USA. There is nothing you can do about it.
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Old 10-07-2023, 08:32 PM
 
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Jamaica and the USA are in the Americas. This is not irrelevant at all.


Where in the Americas is Africa?


And yet, places that never had racial segregation have better race relations than places that did. Case in point, Jamaica vs the USA. There is nothing you can do about it.

Tulsa, Omaha, Atlanta, Rosewood and countless other black communities were literally thriving during segregation. So no, it’s not as worse as slavery. There were several “black wall streets” during segregation.

You sound completely misinformed. I’d suggest you study and read up on USA black history before engaging in it as a non black person.
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Old 10-08-2023, 09:07 AM
 
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Tulsa, Omaha, Atlanta, Rosewood and countless other black communities were literally thriving during segregation. So no, it’s not as worse as slavery. There were several “black wall streets” during segregation.

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What happened to those " black wall streets"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre

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Old 10-08-2023, 10:30 AM
 
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Tulsa, Omaha, Atlanta, Rosewood and countless other black communities were literally thriving during segregation. So no, it’s not as worse as slavery. There were several “black wall streets” during segregation.
As much as you like to deny it, racial segregation worsen racial relations in the USA vs in places that never had it like Jamaica. Keep focusing on exceptions as apparently it fuels your denial. There was a reason Martin Luther King Jr was active in ending racial segregation and gave his speech on the Lincoln Memorial stairs in Washington DC. It certainly wasn't because the typical African American was living as good as the USA offered precisely because things like racisl segregation was blocking their way. If things were peachy for most African Americans, the civil rights movement would had never happened.

There is nothing you can say to change that. Let that sink in.

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You sound completely misinformed. I’d suggest you study and read up on USA black history before engaging in it as a non black person.
There is no need for projection. Everyone knows who is the one in denial.


PS. There were black slave owners too in the USA and in Jamaica. That doesn't mean it was OK or the reality of most African Americans and black Jamaicans at that time. Stop focusing on exceptions.

"There were black slaveowners too. Phew, now I feel so much better."

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Old 10-08-2023, 11:51 AM
 
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What happened to those " black wall streets"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre
I'm not sure what this is trying to prove or disprove.
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Old 10-08-2023, 11:59 AM
 
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Generally speaking how do African Americans view Jamaica, it’s culture, and people? Seems like you both have so much in common in terms of history, music and culture, and are also fairly close geographically as well, yet you don’t often see or hear the two cultures referenced in the same context, so it’s something I thought to ask.

I can't speak for all African Americans, but I personally do not like them. I've had bad encounters with them in the past. A lot of Jamaicans despise Black Americans because they believe in the stereotypes of us all being lazy, thuggish deadbeat parents with no education. They talk down on us as if we're beneath them.
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