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View Poll Results: Would you rather visit an Islamic state or an Atheist state?
Islamic State(s) - i.e. Afghanistan, Brunei, Yemen, etc 3 10.34%
Atheist State(s) - i.e. China, Cuba, Vietnam, etc 26 89.66%
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Old 10-23-2023, 01:01 AM
 
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Hard to say. At least in the Islamic countries it might be easier for one to practice their faith such as Christianity compared to an Atheist nation where the totalitarian state has more of a grip on how people are able to think.
This is true.
Christians have been lining in majority Muslim countries for centuries.
The problem is economic squeeze in many Muslim countries that has resulted in corruption and lack of resources - but note that this is NOT a problem of Muslim bounties alone - this is the problem of the entire third world - and Muslim countries and many Christian and non-religious counties are part of the third world. And they all have the same problem - lack of resources - and widespread corruption.

A few prominent Christian folks from UK have recently moved to Dubai due to the LGBT woke agenda being pushed down the throats of small kids in the schools in UK.
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Old 10-23-2023, 05:31 AM
 
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Hard to say. At least in the Islamic countries it might be easier for one to practice their faith such as Christianity compared to an Atheist nation where the totalitarian state has more of a grip on how people are able to think.
are you absolutely sure of that? I doubt you would be able to practice Christian faith in an Islamic country.
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Old 10-23-2023, 09:54 AM
 
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It's not really a good comparison as you are comparing various political and cultural spheres. Not all of them suppress religion. But how do you compare Vietnam, with all it's free flowing and hedonistic beach resorts catering to Western tourists, to North Korea?
I've been to Vietnam, Cambodia, PRC...I don't agree with their politics (exception is Cambodia as a constitutional monarchy), but they are great to visit, and most are religious in spite of the government policies. In N. Korea, the government IS the religion.

As far as the muslim countries you have listed, I think only two are Islamic Theocracies - that would be Iran and Afghanistan. I wouldn't visit them because, like North Korea, the chances of leaving there alive is limited. Plus sometimes I just need a place to get a cold brew from time to time!
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Old 10-23-2023, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Canada
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My thoughts exactly. They both sound equally terrible.
Neither one is a good enough choice for me to visit because both attitudes are hostile, suspicious, arrogant, rigidly unwelcoming of strangers and do sound equally terrible, with the arrogant and patronizing attitude of Christianity coming in a close third right behind them. But a recognized secular country where people are easy-going and open minded and any religious or non-religious belief is accepted with equanimity would be a good choice for me to visit. Oh, wait ....... I already live in a recognized secular country that is fantastic and I love it so I think I'll just stay right here at home. Seriously, who needs the hassle of travelling to visit countries that are closed minded and hostile? What's the point?

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Old 10-24-2023, 03:32 PM
 
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I think it’s a mistake to view countries like China and North Korea as atheist, which is little more than a rejection of a deity.
In China and North Korea, the government is essentially the state religion.
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Old 10-25-2023, 04:14 AM
 
Location: rural south west UK
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wherever you go you will stand out a mile from the locals and you will forever be "the foreigner" and watched closely, in some countries by the secret police or govt agents. not recommended.
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Old 10-25-2023, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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are you absolutely sure of that? I doubt you would be able to practice Christian faith in an Islamic country.
It depends on which Muslim country I suppose, but there are a few with a sizable Christian minority such as Egypt where 13% of the country is Christian (10% are Coptic). Egypt has a total of 109,500,000 people meaning 14,235,000 are Christian. Meaning more Christian’s live in Egypt than the entire population of Greece (10,482,487)
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Old 10-26-2023, 04:42 AM
 
Location: rural south west UK
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no thanks, I am happy in the country I was born in.
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Old 11-04-2023, 04:25 PM
 
Location: São Paulo, Brazil
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There are countries with a majority of non-believers which are not communist countries like the Netherlands, Sweden and the Czech Republic.

These countries are also very moderate, safe western nations.
I guess the question is about the state, not the people.
Things are distinct. Norway is a Christian state, but with a large bunch of non-believers. While Turkey is a secular state with most of population being muslim.
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Old 11-04-2023, 11:03 PM
 
Location: Atlanta's Castleberry Hill
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You absolutely could include evangelical states in the United States as well. You can claim you are a Christian, but the bible says if you don't love the people you see, you are a liar. So, I think it's hypocritical to point out other nations when Western nations have major problems at home.
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