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Old 10-03-2023, 04:12 PM
 
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Just another list full of subjective opinions. All good to ignore.
Their "methodology" is pretty close to "Live, Love, Laugh".

https://www.worldsbestcities.com/methodology-2024/
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Old 10-03-2023, 04:13 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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No Medellin, Colombia over 100 of these cities? I'm done. Throw the list away.
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Old 10-03-2023, 04:18 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Is Cape Town worse than JoBurg in terms of violence now?

But yea its really mostly all that comes down to the Cape Flats. At least that's how my 7 months there felt. I was never sure if they were included in Cape Town proper, but I guess they are. I always saw and considered the "Northern Suburbs region and Southern Suburbs region as part of the city with the lats occupying a majority of land to the immeidate North/East. Baltimore crimes seem to be wide spread throughout the City of Baltimore- when you look at homicide maps over the years.

Other than that there not one QOL or practical way Baltimore wins- probably just GDP per capita.But it's behind on anything I can think of from transit to recreation to nightlife to diversity.
Apart from basic things like life expectancy or health care. I know for sure which one I’d rather have surgery in if I was shot.

All morbid jokes aside Cape Town is significantly bigger then Baltimore so it out muscling it on metrics shouldn’t come off as surprising.

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Old 10-03-2023, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Florida
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NOLA, definitely. Philly is properly rated. Baltimore, idk bout that one.
On a global scale though? I don't think so.

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Why do people think Florida is even habitable?

Stick to your swamp bubble, okay?
I didn't claim my swamp bubble is top 100 either...

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You haven’t traveled a lot if you think any of those cities a “bottom of the barrel” on global scale.
Actually, I have traveled a lot. Which is why I know Baltimore, NOLA, and Philly aren't top 100 material. I didn't say they're terrible, but definitely not top 100 worldwide.
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Old 10-03-2023, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Surprise, AZ
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Crap list.
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Old 10-03-2023, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Boston Metrowest (via the Philly area)
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Actually, I have traveled a lot. Which is why I know Baltimore, NOLA, and Philly aren't top 100 material. I didn't say they're terrible, but definitely not top 100 worldwide.
Like everything in life, your mile may vary, but this is presumably based on objective data.

Baltimore, NOLA, and Philly take a lot of flack (and obviously not entirely without reason), but their worst features are sensationalized, while their best features are diminished (especially Baltimore).

I also think Americans look at everything from a lens of financial privilege. The fact of the matter is all three of these cities are far more livable, offer more opportunity, and have far more resources than the vast majority of cities across the globe, by virtue of being American.

And I'm not advocating "American exceptionalism," but there's no doubt the baseline standard of living is much higher in even America's "worst off" cities than most of the world.
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Old 10-03-2023, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Like everything in life, your mile may vary, but this is presumably based on objective data.

Baltimore, NOLA, and Philly take a lot of flack (and obviously not entirely without reason), but their worst features are sensationalized, while their best features are diminished (especially Baltimore).

I also think Americans look at everything from a lens of financial privilege. The fact of the matter is all three of these cities are far more livable, offer more opportunity, and have far more resources than the vast majority of cities across the globe, by virtue of being American.

And I'm not advocating "American exceptionalism," but there's no doubt the baseline standard of living is much higher in even America's "worst off" cities than most of the world.
I appreciate the points you make. However, it’s a very big world! I think “best” cities would be some combination of global importance and quality of life. I thought more about this, and Philadelphia might make the top 100. I wouldn’t argue strongly for or against that. The other two are still definite no’s for me. They’re not particularly important and don’t offer that great of QOL.

There are a lot of other cities that have better QOL, mostly in Western Europe and East Asia. However, the premier city of a lot of developing counties have greater significance and good QOL. Kuala Lumpur and Montevideo are two examples that I’d rate above the three US cities in question. It’s debatable though, particularly with Philly.

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Old 10-03-2023, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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Cape Town and South Africa is incredibly violent but it clears Baltimore in any comparison tbf.
South Africa is violent, but also has the best reporting/statistics infrastructure on the continent. They don't hide their problems. Beautiful country and definitely recommend visiting, just like how thousands of Americans visit Mexico every year.

Personally, I prefer JoBurg over Cape Town. It feels more like a metropolis and less boutique-y, but both are worth a visit.
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Old 10-03-2023, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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I appreciate the points you make. However, it’s a very big world! I think “best” cities would be some combination of global importance and quality of life. I thought more about this, and Philadelphia might make the top 100. I wouldn’t argue strongly for or against that. The other two are still definite no’s for me. They’re not particularly important and don’t offer that great of QOL.

There are a lot of other cities that have better QOL, mostly in Western Europe and East Asia. However, the premier city of a lot of developing counties have greater significance and good QOL. Kuala Lumpur and Montevideo are two examples that I’d rate above the three US cities in question. It’s debatable though, particularly with Philly.
What jobs are in Montevideo? Stable nice city and country (Uruguay), but many go to Chile, Argentina, and Brazil for opportunities. I'd take Baltimore, Philly any day.
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Old 10-04-2023, 06:23 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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Cringe
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