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12-10-2008, 10:26 AM
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From a historical point of view, CR is Slavic and Germanic (austro-hungarian influence). But geographically speaking, it's part of Central Europe (and they say Poland and Hungary also belong to this category).
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Czech blood is mostly West Slavic. It is alse and an insult to call them German.
Poland, Slovakia, and Hungary are also West Slavic. However Hungarians are not Slavs. They are mostly a mix of mostly magyars, goths, huns, celts, turks, and mongols. Some slavic blood is also there., but not heavy.
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12-10-2008, 10:37 AM
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Czech blood is mostly West Slavic. It is alse and an insult to call them German.
Poland, Slovakia, and Hungary are also West Slavic. However Hungarians are not Slavs. They are mostly a mix of mostly magyars, goths, huns, celts, turks, and mongols. Some slavic blood is also there., but not heavy.
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So only Hungarians are a mixture of all those - the slavs are just "slavs" and there was no mixing. What utter nonsense.
I would love to see the empirical data from whence you gleaned your conclusions from. Care to share?
P.S. Hungary was never West Slavic - the Hungarian language is Finn-Ugric. Just a hint there. 
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12-10-2008, 01:22 PM
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Judging from remembered conversations from my Czech immigrant grandparents and their friends, both Germany and Russia were equally despised. I doubt any of the old school Czechs would be amused by this discussion. 
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12-10-2008, 03:22 PM
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Czech is slavic, but I couldn't answer that because both possible answers to this poll are stupid: I can tell the difference between Czechs and Poles, as could any Czech or Pole.
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12-10-2008, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DontH8Me
So only Hungarians are a mixture of all those - the slavs are just "slavs" and there was no mixing. What utter nonsense.
I would love to see the empirical data from whence you gleaned your conclusions from. Care to share?
P.S. Hungary was never West Slavic - the Hungarian language is Finn-Ugric. Just a hint there. 
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I am sry.. That's why I should not write messages in the morning. However I wrote more in detail, since the mods won't let me correct what I wrote in the previous box. I MEANT to say this:
Czech blood is mostly West Slavic. It's also an insult to call them German. Also it's not wise to call them Russian either even the Russians are Slavs, but of the East variety. Mostly it is due to the 50 years of occupation.
Poland, and Slovakia also are West Slavic. However Hungarians are not Slavs even though they are in the Central European region. They are mostly a mix of mostly magyars, goths, huns, celts, turks, and mongols. Some slavic blood is also there., but not heavy.
Also when it comes to Romanians, they are mostly Latin group people. But they also have some blood from the visigoths, mongols, and turks.
Oh and I never said Hungarians are "only" a mixture of everything. Notice I use the world "most". Even though the Czechs are West Slavs, they like pretty much everyone in the region has blood of the Visigoths.
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12-10-2008, 10:49 PM
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During WWII Hitler justified taking the Sudetenland from Czechoslovakia because he said those people were Germanic. Germans are more Nordic or teutonic, Slavs are shorter, rounder and often fatter. Germans are just flat out beautiful!!
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12-11-2008, 04:33 AM
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The term "west slavic" actually is used to denote the group of languages Czech, Slovak and Polish belong to (as opposed to the eastern slavic and souther slavic langauges). So these sub-groups all come under the Slavic group (and hence the few similarities present between say Czech and Russian). And yes Hungarian doesn't belong to the same group (in fact it's not even an Indo-european langauge; belong to the Finno-Urgic group). In terms of geographic location, it is part of Central Europe (just like Germany, Poland, and Hungary are).
In the political context, it is a post-communist country and so definitely has a more Slavic orientation (even in the political attitude of the officials). In terms of economy and development, CR is said to be in the "2nd world countries group". And finally in terms of culture, it is part-Slavic and part-Germanic (the Austro-Hungarian influences) and yes this also overlaps with the linguistic part (as many german words have been incorporated into Czech).
so basically the cultural and linguistic boundaries overlap while the political and economical boundaries slightly overlap.
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12-11-2008, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by shreypete
The term "west slavic" actually is used to denote the group of languages Czech, Slovak and Polish belong to (as opposed to the eastern slavic and souther slavic langauges). So these sub-groups all come under the Slavic group (and hence the few similarities present between say Czech and Russian). And yes Hungarian doesn't belong to the same group (in fact it's not even an Indo-european langauge; belong to the Finno-Urgic group). In terms of geographic location, it is part of Central Europe (just like Germany, Poland, and Hungary are).
In the political context, it is a post-communist country and so definitely has a more Slavic orientation (even in the political attitude of the officials). In terms of economy and development, CR is said to be in the "2nd world countries group". And finally in terms of culture, it is part-Slavic and part-Germanic (the Austro-Hungarian influences) and yes this also overlaps with the linguistic part (as many german words have been incorporated into Czech).
so basically the cultural and linguistic boundaries overlap while the political and economical boundaries slightly overlap.
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Czechs are more Slavic than German. They sound more sophisticated and are usually nicer when compared with Germans. And Czech Republic is still in many grouping economically a developing nation, but is an "emerging market." However if the economic crises continues, they might get back tracked a few years. And it is true. Hungarians are not Indo-Europeans.
The only lingguistic differences between the Czech language and Russian is certain pronounciations. Also the former uses a Latin alphabet while the latter uses Cryllic.
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12-11-2008, 11:56 AM
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It's important to make a difference between language and "blood".
Before nationalism and romanticism arose, there had been lots of exchange between the language groups in Central Europe. Particularly in the territory of the modern Czech Rep. there had been germanization and "czechization" going both ways for centuries.
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12-11-2008, 12:31 PM
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Poles look more " Eastern slavic" than Czechs, at sometimes they look Russian.
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