Life in Argentina? (to buy, school, living in)

[Embraer]

Originally Posted by gv0928

Brazil's economy is not that good - it doesn't change the fact that there's widespread extreme proverty, and a small elite with much of the wealth.

That would be true if this was 1970. Do some research and learn about Brazil's rapidly exanding middle class. I was just there last year and the country is on an incredible pace.

If so little people had wealth as you state, Brazil would not be among the top nations in the world for Cell Phone users, personal computer users, internet connectivity, and among the top 10 in purchasing power.

Yes, there is still extreme poverty within many sectors particularly in the poorest regions of the North and Northeast and the income gap continues to be large, a legacy left behind by the Generals of the 60s and 70s. However this is not the same Brazil of yesterday with its military dictatorship and runaway inflation of 300% a month. Since the mid 90s inflation has never topped 6% a year in Brazil and that alone should be a good indicator on how their economy has changed in the last 20 years. Plus the inocme gap is decreasing at a rapid rate with more and more poor families entering the workforce and breaking the cycle, something nobody thought was possible 10 years ago.

Like I said, I was just in Brazil last year and I make regular trips there and I very rarely ever go to the tourist beaches. I stick to the large metropolitan cities and smaller mid sized cities of the countryside. I have seen Brazil evolve from a country with a struggling economy in the 80s to a major economic player of today. The lifestyle for the middle class and up in Brazil is unmatched anywhere and given the right circumstances I would move to Brazil in a heartbeat. In fact I am seriously considering moving to the city of Belo Horizonte sometime within the next 5 years.

Here is the latest article about Brazil from the Economist:

Brazil | All this and oil too | Economist.com

And unlike most other large oil producing nations ( Nigeria, Venezuela, Kuwait, etc..) Brazil's economy is diverse and already in the top 10 in the world without oil exports. Now with oil exports thrown into the mix Brazil is projected to reach levels of wealth and prosperity similar if not greater than that of the European Union...provided all goes well with the exploration of the Tupi field of course. The next 10 years are going to be very interesting for the South American giant.

And here are some nice pictures of Brazil to put a face to all this discussion

Santa Catarina state

Government of the state of Santa Catarina - Brazil

Curitiba

Curitiba - Prédios Historicos - Minhas Fotos I - SkyscraperCity


BELO HORIZONTE where I would like to live

::: BELO HORIZONTE ::: Minhas Fotos (PESADO!!!) - SkyscraperCity

BLUMENAU

BLUMENAU - Fotos tiradas por mim! - SkyscraperCity

[Cornerguy1]

Great post, but the thread is about life in Argentina.

Feel free to start a Brazil thread if you wish.

[gv0928]

How easy is it to get a Visa in Argentina?

Citizenship, all that stuff?

[Richardhin320]

Originally Posted by victorma

Argentina is a great country to visit and live in. Four climates, mountains, sea, hills, snow, whatever you want. You can choose among cosmopolitan cities such as Buenos Aires (called the Paris of South America), Cordoba, Rosario, Mar del Plata and the whole southern region called Patagonia. There was an economic recession back in 2002 but the country is so rich that the economy is steady and growing up now. People? The best! 99% descend from Europeans and you will not know if you in France, Italy or Argentina. I am an American who was down there for one month and now, came back to the US to pick up my family and move down there definitely.

Don't waste your time in Brazil or Chile? Brazil is one of the most dangerous countries in the world, people starving down the street and crime. Very low education, not comparable to Argentina. Think that brazilians save money throughout the year just to purchase their mardigrass costume! I have been in Sao Paulo and Rio and I almost got shooted in a restaurant. My co-workers and I rushed out to the hotel and went back to Buenos Aries immediately.

Chile? It is like Arizona, dessertic, boring and their people are arrogant and not trustable.

Just stick with Argentina. This is my place in the world!

Actually....Brazil is getting stronger as far as being more industrial. As far as the crime goes...the favelas(slums) ARE TO BE AVOIDED;THEY ARE VERY DANGEROUS, BUT IF YOU HAVE TO GO THERE, GO WITH A GROUP OF PEOPLE. Its not bad for everyone, there are people who have good experiences in Brazil. Usually crime happens to "pigeons" people who flash gold, money and expensives in public and/or even looking like a tourist.

[ProLogic]

Originally Posted by Ise

Dave, just read your topic again and I guess you're going to see it. It's not hard!

Wanna a clue?
"People? The best! 99% descend from Europeans"

The first Europeans who settled there killed most if not all indigenous peoples. Hence the large White population.

I don't really like their attitude at all. They don't even claim themselves as South American, they like the term European. Ever heard of Maradona? One of the biggest Jackasses in history. They feel just because they are white, that they are automatically better than everyone else.

[King0fthehill]

Next summer, 2 of my good friends and I will be staying in a loft in the Palermo SoHo district. We mainly just want to try something new. take photos, meet new people and indulge in the porteno lifestyle (and good food!)

I was wondering if you had any tips/advice you could share with me about BsAs, Palermo or even Argentina in general.

I am open to recommendations of new neighborhoods, too.

[jtur88]

I've passed through Argentina a number of times, but I've never been in Burnos Aires.
Argentina is a very well-developed country, not at all like Mexico. Towns look a lot like American towns, with no slums, and they are very clean and well laid-out. Argentines are well educated. A very large number of Argentines, maybe a majolrty, do not have Spanish surnames. Their ancestors came from British Isles, Germany or Italy, at about the same time that people from those countries were immigrating into the United States.

For some reason, they have never succeeded in getting their economy in order, and the suitability of Argentina as a place to live varies widely according to the national economy. At times, costs are very low there in terms of US dollars. But at other times, it is unaffordable.

They are genuinely South American, and still have a very strong sense of their nationality and customs. I saw a modern supermarket in the beautifyl city of Mendoza that was open 22 hours a day. It was open all night, but closed for siesta from 1 to 3 pm.

[pigeonhole]

Buenos Aires (called the Paris of South America)

I'm already living in Paris, I don't want to fly 15 hours to find the same thing!
I'd rather visit Mexico...

[FCEddie]

Whatever happened to the original poster? Did they make the move?

[Badger]

Originally Posted by dorado0359

From reading this post, it sounds like Argentina is a very racist country full of very racist people.

you must be an Obama supporter.