North American Union (NAU) (credit card, employment, utilities)

[Kracer]

"sexual differences"?

[dcashley]

Originally Posted by Kracer

"sexual differences"?

I didn't mean "sexual differences" in the sense of how we procreate. I meant it in terms of how we perceive sex, marriage, and family. For example, the Mexican culture puts a lot of emphasis on the value of family. The US culture does less so--family is important, but not to the degree it is in Mexico. The Canadians have a more non-puriticanical view of sexuality. Canadians are not as "uptight" about homosexual unions, prostitution, and so forth as US people. This is not to say that one culture is right, wrong or somehow better....merely that they are incompatible.

[Noliving]

Originally Posted by Travelling fella

Superior in what sense? life is more than economy, gdp or technology and much more than military, life should be fullfilment, those things aren't really important to make the most out of your life, it depends on what you are seeking, that said, really there are no superior countries, just different countries for different tastes.

I live in Mexico, and I lived in the USA, and also in Brazil, let's make an objective analysis.

economy:

USA, credit / debt is used to fuel the biggest consumption economy in the world, used to be a manufacturing powerhouse, until everything was sent overseas, it is now a FIRE economy that after facing a sever economic crisis is on a breaking point.

Wages are high, cost of living is high too, technology is very cheap, credits are awesome compared to the rates of other countries, you can find almost everything from any country, services range from ok to excelent, most could fit on very good.

Mexico, the biggest income of Mexico comes from oil sales, tourism, and the remittances of people who works in the USA, it is now facing a hard time due to the fact that her principal partner is facing one of the worst crisis of her history, it is a middle income country, services range from bad to excellent, with most ranging in average, thanks to the NAFTA and other Free trade agreements, you can find almost everything from any country (although not as much diversity as on the USA but almost) technology is more expensive than in the USA, but not that much compared to the rest of the world, cost of living ranges on the city although it is average.

Brazil, the biggest country of southamerica is a regional power, it's economy is based on oil sales, exports of several manufacturing goods, food exports, and alternative fuels, the country is really big, big enough to have a very strong inner market that is very well protected by stiff tariff's imposed into imports, it has been hit with the crisis due to the fact that most of her partners are in crisis too, but not as hard (so far) as the USA or Mexico which is nearer and more dependent, services range from mediocre to excellent, most would fall in average, technology is veeeery expensive, specially imported things, and diversity is very limited, you can find products from mercosur members, and some other imported things that are veeeery expensive compared to the prices of the USA or Mexico.

living conditions:

USA, has good living conditions, good wages too, too much lavish materialism and consumerism, people is too concerned with material things and live pretty busy lifes.

if you like consumerism and materalism, shopping sprees, big sales, this is your country

Mexico, good living conditions high unequality though, more laidback and relaxed lifestyle, harder to escape poverty without good education/skills, better life quality for the middle class.

if you like a laidback lifestyle yet with the benefits of capitalism and free trade this is your country

Brazil, good living conditions but severe inequality, laidback and relaxed, in the north, stricter in the south, but not as much as the USA, escaping poverty is very hard without good education/skills, middle class life is very good though.

if you like a laidback lifestyle, in small, very clean and organized cities, but without many diversity this is your country

GDP

USA $13,201,820,000,000.00 # 1 in the world
Brazil $1,067,962,000,000.00 # 11 in the world
Mexico $839,181,900,000.00 #15 in the world

Technology

USA
technology is very available and cheap
Mexico
technology is fairly available and reasonably cheap
Brazil
technology is harder to get by and expensive


Quality of life

This is really subjective, it depends on what do you want, in my case I found the USA too materialistic for my taste, I like living in Mexico and I loved living in Brazil, I'd do it again without even thinking, I like the USA for shopping but I wouldn't live here even if I was paid for it, nothing against America it just isn't my style.

earnings potential

it really depends on what you do, and on what country, but average it'd be the usa, but again is this really important?

millitary

yes the USA has the most powerful army in the world, so what? this army didn't prevent 9/11, it hasn't been able to prevent illegal immigration either, the only good thing that the USA military did was to help during WWII, other than that it has just killed millions in other countries and made a lot of enemies for this.

Well lets start off with economy, the US has a larger and more powerful economy, if there was to be NAU, mexico would benefit more so then the US.

I wouldn't consider lifesytles when it comes to shopping sprees, nor is having a laid back lifestyle to be an accurate representation or view/definition of living conditions. More accurate view I believe would based upon whether or not a person has electricity, running along with heated water, quality of education services, quality of medical services, quality of the house is it carboard box or is a brick house, etc.
There I would say in a lot of cases the US and Mexico are even but then again I would say it is more evenly spread amongst the US then in mexico.

Technology the US basically wins compared to mexico but not really by much, its available but is it affordable to the vast majority?

Quality of life again I would say is more based upon living conditions and services rendered. Overall I would say quality of life is higher in the US then in mexico. Again quality of education, medical services, food services, ability to pay rent and bills and utilities etc.

Earning potential like you said is probably better in the US then in mexico. Is it important? Absolutely due to the fact that is primarily how people are able to get out of poverty. The better it is the higher chance you have of being able to leave and or stay out of poverty.

As for the military, that one is obvious. Ya it didn't prevent 9/11 but then again it isn't the militarys job, that is more of fbi and local law enforcements job. Ya the US military hasn't been able to stop illegal immigration but then again that isn't one of the US military's responsebilities, in fact US military can't enforce US law on US soil, you could rape someone in front of the military in the US and they can't arrest you, national guard can I believe but not marine,army,navy,airforce. That would be like saying the firefighter wasn't able to prevent bank robberies or assaults or murder. It isn't a firefighters job to combat crime. So ya the US military isn't going to prevent illegal immigration due to the fact that by law it can't enforce US law nor is it tasked with border patrol and illegal immigration, just like how the firefighter doesn't prevent robberies or murder it isn't their job to do that.

[dcashley]

Originally Posted by Noliving

it didn't prevent 9/11 but then again it isn't the militarys job, that is more of fbi and local law enforcements job. .

Not the military's job to protect the USA? Then WHAT IS their job, Matey?

[Noliving]

Originally Posted by dcashley

Not the military's job to protect the USA? Then WHAT IS their job, Matey?

To protect us from a foreign invasion force, so yes it's job is to protect the US, but its jop is not to protect the US from illegal immigrants or from domestic crime such as a hijacking in US soil, I'm assuming that has changed though since 9/11 with the hijacking. Hijackings in US airspace are dealt with, atleast before 9/11, by FBI and local law enforcement, you can't just send in the US military every time their appears to be some form of domestic crime. The US military can get involved on presidents orders. The US airforce did get involved in 9/11 but by the time they did get into the air the hijack aircraft either had already reached their targets or were flying below radar.

[dcashley]

Originally Posted by Noliving

To protect us from a foreign invasion force, so yes it's job is to protect the US, but its jop is not to protect the US from illegal immigrants or from domestic crime such as a hijacking in US soil, I'm assuming that has changed though since 9/11 with the hijacking. Hijackings in US airspace are dealt with, atleast before 9/11, by FBI and local law enforcement, you can't just send in the US military every time their appears to be some form of domestic crime. The US military can get involved on presidents orders. The US airforce did get involved in 9/11 but by the time they did get into the air the hijack aircraft either had already reached their targets or were flying below radar.

Its not a "foreign invasion" when an organized group attack our home land? I think it is. ... I am an ardent supporter of our military services. That being said, I am also a realist. The military screwed up on this one. So did the CIA, the FBI, and every other policing agency. This includes those that check visas, and on and on....there are NO blameless law enforcement, military, or governmental leaders on this one. For anyone who purportedly (spelling) supports our nation, our way of life, our military, and our law enforcement to claim otherwise is to hide their head in the sand. Our protectors faild us on this one. Just like they did with Pearl Harbor. That doesn't mean we should attack our protectors. That DOES mean that we should insist that our protectors learn from their mistakes though.

[Noliving]

Originally Posted by dcashley

Its not a "foreign invasion" when an organized group attack our home land? I think it is. ... I am an ardent supporter of our military services. That being said, I am also a realist. The military screwed up on this one. So did the CIA, the FBI, and every other policing agency. This includes those that check visas, and on and on....there are NO blameless law enforcement, military, or governmental leaders on this one. For anyone who purportedly (spelling) supports our nation, our way of life, our military, and our law enforcement to claim otherwise is to hide their head in the sand. Our protectors faild us on this one. Just like they did with Pearl Harbor. That doesn't mean we should attack our protectors. That DOES mean that we should insist that our protectors learn from their mistakes though.

They didn't know the hijackers at that point whether they were foreign or not, so what if its organized, organized does not equal foreign, organized crime attacks our homeland all the time, they attack our banks, they attack fellow drug dealers etc, does that mean we send in the military against the mafia and the mobs in this country, do we send in the military to take down organized crime no we don't, that is the job of FBI and local law enforcement. Look the military probably did scew up but then again they didn't have clearance to act on 9/11 either until the president orders it, remember how bush just sat there.

They clearly haved learned from their mistakes due to the fact there hasn't been any more attacks.

Again like I said before, you don't blame the firefighter for failing to stop a bank robbery or a murder, why because it isn't their responsebility. 9/11 was the job of fbi and local lawenforcement not military(up until the pentagon was attacked), so why blame the military for failing to stop 9/11 when it wasn't their job?

[dcashley]

Originally Posted by Noliving

They didn't know the hijackers at that point whether they were foreign or not, so what if its organized, organized does not equal foreign, organized crime attacks our homeland all the time, they attack our banks, they attack fellow drug dealers etc, does that mean we send in the military against the mafia and the mobs in this country, do we send in the military to take down organized crime no we don't, that is the job of FBI and local law enforcement. Look the military probably did scew up but then again they didn't have clearance to act on 9/11 either until the president orders it, remember how bush just sat there.

They clearly haved learned from their mistakes due to the fact there hasn't been any more attacks.

Again like I said before, you don't blame the firefighter for failing to stop a bank robbery or a murder, why because it isn't their responsebility. 9/11 was the job of fbi and local lawenforcement not military(up until the pentagon was attacked), so why blame the military for failing to stop 9/11 when it wasn't their job?

It is everyone's job to keep us safe. When people start saying "not my job..." it causes a real decline in the performance of all agencies. Ergo, if you are in a management position in one of those agencies, please resign.

[Noliving]

Originally Posted by dcashley

It is everyone's job to keep us safe. When people start saying "not my job..." it causes a real decline in the performance of all agencies. Ergo, if you are in a management position in one of those agencies, please resign.

They do keep US safe, but not all of them keep the US safe the sameway, the military keeps US safe from attacks launched against the US beyond our borders, that is why US military can't enforce US law, not within our borders, 9/11 was launched within our borders, local and federal law enforcment keep the US safe from attacks launched within US borders. You are just going to have to accept the fact that the US military "failed" due to the fact that it wasn't its job, that was the job of local/state and federal law enforcement.

[researchALLwars]

Originally Posted by Noliving

Hijackings in US airspace are dealt with, atleast before 9/11, by FBI and local law enforcement, you can't just send in the US military every time their appears to be some form of domestic crime. The US military can get involved on presidents orders. The US airforce did get involved in 9/11 but by the time they did get into the air the hijack aircraft either had already reached their targets or were flying below radar.

This is how false flag ops continue without resistance. IGNORANCE. Being ignorant says nothing about your actual intelligence (ability to learn) - it just means that you dont know. We are all ignorant of many things, important and not.

All hijackings since the inception of commercial flight are to be intercepted by fighter aircraft immediately. I admit that the fighters, while they get a lot of "practice", don't get to take 'the test' very often.

Here is an example: Dow Jones Interactive® Publications Library


Also flying below radar? Jetliners? Near DC? Oh my.

google video or youtube search: 911 Ripple Effect.


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