Do you ever just want to move out of the country?? (crime rate, house)

[JasonPaul]

Whats your picks?

[j_k_k]

Originally Posted by Bugnubs

You are entitled to your opinion. However, you apparently are unaware of rioting, violent anti-semiticism and car burning in Paris and a number of French cities. Nor obviously have you seen the slums of Naples and the overwhelming refuse problem there. Nor the pollution problems in Athens or gang crime in the UK. The USA has its share of social and urban strife, but stating that the USA owns worse "dumps" than most is appallingly naive.

Yeah, I'm ignorant, that's what it is. I'll just leave you to the comfort of your little conclusion, here.

[Fleet]

Originally Posted by j_k_k

You live in the United States, which ranks low in the developed world in most categories. It's not ridiculous at all. Show me the things in which we rank highly relative to nations of similar technical development, if you can. You spluttered that I hadn't provided any facts, and now I've told you what I was talking about. Refute, by all means.

If what you say is true, why do more millionaires (and billionaires) live in the U.S.?
And why is the Los Angeles area home to many of the wealthy and celebrities? They certainly have the money to live in a so-called "more developed" nations. You do realize that the U.S. economy is the biggest in world, and the economy of California alone is around #7?

In other words, the economy of just the state of California is bigger than most whole countries!

[moving123456]

Originally Posted by FlyingDutch

I have thought about it.
Because it's crowded here in the Netherlands and we lack beautifull ture, like the green hills, mountains etc. that many countries enjoy!

Economically there are not many places i can think of that would be an improvement.....a few exceptions, like Norway for example.
I'm a little in love with Vancouver, British Columbia. ( Canada)
In Germany i feel comfortable with the people.

I head to a small town in the southern Netherlands when I feel the need to get away from the United States for a while.

[R_Cowgirl]

Originally Posted by j_k_k

Plus, it is a society that knows only one barometer for human quality: how much money you have. Those who have the most are obviously the best, and those with the least are clearly the lowest. Even those with the least tend to embrace this concept in droves--gods know why, but they do. So you're one of the better people, and it makes sense that you enjoy that to the fullest. It certainly enables you to stay out of the Bronx.

Excellent point, and one of the most frustrating things about the US. One hopes that the current downturn will re-focus people on what matters more than one's credit score and bank balance. I've had lots of money and I've had times where I had to really scrimp and live on peanut butter. In both good and bad it's wise to keep your eyes on the real prize -- your physical health, your friends, your spiritual support, and your mental health.

For me - having battled the rat race since i started working at 10 (babysitting, then Dairy Queen, then sorting Oranges for Sunkist, then jobs at university and in tourism, then then then...) It would be nice to find a slower paced life in a less stressful community. Can I find that in the US? Maybe.

It might be fun to take a year off and explore internationally before settling on one place. I've traveled a lot and actually enjoy SE Asia. But it's a little iffy right now in some of those places. I've thought of (in no particular order) Costa Rica, Argentina, Canada, and Corfu.

Who knows. Certainly worth spending a little time and money to check things out. I had always dreamed of one place (which I will not mention since others love it) and went to visit it. Only reaction - GAH! Decided that place wasn't for me.

[R_Cowgirl]

Originally Posted by Fleet

You do realize that the U.S. economy is the biggest in world, and the economy of California alone is around #7?

In other words, the economy of just the state of California is bigger than most whole countries!

California is unable to pay anyone their tax refunds right now. They are issuing IOU's as we speak.

[Mongohateswinter]

You probably won't realize how good U have it here until U check out some other countries.....
Especially the ones where an American is a target....I see U ride horses... I used to ride them too, but I ride Harley's now cause horses are only ONE HORSEPOWER & U don't need a shovel.......Later

[Sixteen Giga Blight]

France

[tijlover]

Originally Posted by Fleet

I don't know how to reply to someone who hasn't posted one fact!

I guess I'm doing quite well considering I live at the "lowest tier of the First World." Three cars, a 2618 sq. ft. house I own, a very good area of town, many choices for shopping and entertainment, etc.

But you DID reply quite well in your next paragraph. Living in one of the most spiritually bankrupt countries on this planet.

[andreaspercheron]

Originally Posted by pigeonhole

If only I had a partner in crime!! LOL

ME if you want : Mexico, CR or Argentina

Woohoo! I'm actually planning a trip to Costa Rica this year. My daughter and I are talking about Christmas in CR. I am so serious about making this trip.