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05-29-2009, 04:10 AM
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In SE Asia they serve locally-brewed beer, both local brands (Tiger, Beer Lao, Singha) or European brands which have local facilities (Carlsberg). Beer should be local, like food. This thing about hauling a bottle of anything across the ocean is a waste of fuel and implicates our wasteful 'faux' wealth society. BUD and Miller don't deserve to be shipped across any ocean, IMHO.
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05-29-2009, 06:59 AM
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Its because of the American troops over there. Most Germans drink real beer.
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Actually the area of the Czech Republic where Budweis is located is in the Sudetenland which has been populated by ethnic Germans for centuries. Of course WW2 changed that, but Budweiser is a direct descendant of German brew.
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05-29-2009, 07:30 AM
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In SE Asia they serve locally-brewed beer, both local brands (Tiger, Beer Lao, Singha) or European brands which have local facilities (Carlsberg). Beer should be local, like food. This thing about hauling a bottle of anything across the ocean is a waste of fuel and implicates our wasteful 'faux' wealth society. BUD and Miller don't deserve to be shipped across any ocean, IMHO.
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I'd be willing to bet that Budweiser in Europe is actually brewed there.
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05-29-2009, 10:19 AM
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Why Aren't American Beers easily available worldwide?
The major brewers, Budweiser, Miller, Coors claim to be the best beers. Of course, that's just marketing. But I doubt that getting an American beer outside the US would be easy. In which countries can one find American beers? Are Americans the only ones who drink American beer?
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To be honest, many nations have their own beer. Personally, I don't like the big 3 beers. I prefer imported beer or a local brew(Sweetwater 420 from Atlanta,GA). I think many nations prefer their own beer. Personally, I like Pilsner Urquell, Tsingtao, and Guiness.
Beers in other nations:
Canada - Labatt, Molson
Mexico- Dos Equis, Bohemia, Corona, Tecate
Germany - Becks, Warsteiner, St. Pauli, Spaten
Belgium - Duvel, Stella Artois
Czech Republic - Pilsner Urquell, Staropramen
Russia - Baltika
Jamaica - Red Stripe
Japan - Asahi, Sapporo, Kirin Ichiban
China - Tsingtao
Vietnam - Tiger
Ireland - Guiness
England - Smithwicks
Australia - Newcastle
New Zealand - Steinlager
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05-29-2009, 08:04 PM
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Funny you mention about American Beer because I just got back from Aruba on a week's vacation and couldn't find one bottle of Miller Lite anywhere, even the bars and restaurants didn't have any. The bartenders told me everyone in Aruba has a hard time getting Miller Lite, maybe it costs too much to import.
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05-30-2009, 12:25 AM
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Canada - Labatt, Molson
Mexico- Dos Equis, Bohemia, Corona, Tecate
Germany - Becks, Warsteiner, St. Pauli, Spaten
Belgium - Duvel, Stella Artois
Czech Republic - Pilsner Urquell, Staropramen
Russia - Baltika
Jamaica - Red Stripe
Japan - Asahi, Sapporo, Kirin Ichiban
China - Tsingtao
Vietnam - Tiger
Ireland - Guiness
England - Smithwicks
Australia - Newcastle
New Zealand - Steinlager
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Labatts, Molson, Corona, Steinlager, Kirin, Sapporo, Tsingtao are simply more expensive versions of the crap the big American breweries produce (at least the versions of these beers that we get in the U.S.). I know that some countries brew their best beer in-country. I never saw Steinlager in the green bottles in NZ, but I had some excellent beer in a brewpub in Auckland. In Australia, I had a tasty English-style bitter in a pub in Sydney. In Britain you go to a local pub with "hand-pulled" bitter to get the good stuff.
It's similar in the U.S. (but only since the 1980s). The craft breweries produce a tremendous amount of styles and the beer is nothing like the bud/miller/coors family of anemic lagers. I do have a problem with the overhopping you get in some of the microbrews on the West Coast - its another way of flattening the beer world into one basic style. A brewery might legitmately produce a highly-hopped India Pale Ale, but when it brews a brown ale it should have a totally different character (sweeter without a pronounced hoppiness). Instead, some breweries just produce pale, amber, brown, and black versions of an IPA (but with even more hoppiness then is traditional for that style).
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05-30-2009, 01:52 AM
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Because they cannot compete with European brewers such as Carlsberg or Heineken.
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05-30-2009, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by pirate_lafitte
To be honest, many nations have their own beer. Personally, I don't like the big 3 beers. I prefer imported beer or a local brew(Sweetwater 420 from Atlanta,GA). I think many nations prefer their own beer. Personally, I like Pilsner Urquell, Tsingtao, and Guiness.
Beers in other nations:
Vietnam - Tiger
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Tiger beer is a Singapore-based company. They do, however, have breweries and bottlers in other SE and NE Asian countries. For example, if BUD is brewed and bottled in Germany, I have no issues. Keep it local.
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05-30-2009, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by pirate_lafitte
To be honest, many nations have their own beer. Personally, I don't like the big 3 beers. I prefer imported beer or a local brew(Sweetwater 420 from Atlanta,GA). I think many nations prefer their own beer. Personally, I like Pilsner Urquell, Tsingtao, and Guiness.
Beers in other nations:
Canada - Labatt, Molson
Mexico- Dos Equis, Bohemia, Corona, Tecate
Germany - Becks, Warsteiner, St. Pauli, Spaten
Belgium - Duvel, Stella Artois
Czech Republic - Pilsner Urquell, Staropramen
Russia - Baltika
Jamaica - Red Stripe
Japan - Asahi, Sapporo, Kirin Ichiban
China - Tsingtao
Vietnam - Tiger
Ireland - Guiness
England - Smithwicks
Australia - Newcastle
New Zealand - Steinlager
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hey, thanks for all this information. i know red stripe to be real good. from there, i also used to know heineken.

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05-31-2009, 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Visvaldis
Why Aren't American Beers easily available worldwide?
The major brewers, Budweiser, Miller, Coors claim to be the best beers. Of course, that's just marketing. But I doubt that getting an American beer outside the US would be easy. In which countries can one find American beers? Are Americans the only ones who drink American beer?
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First is tradition. Why would you change the beer brand that is drunk in your area for 200 years, because some US brewery claims to be the best in world... kay
Second. In europe draft beer is much more common. It's transported from brewery directly to the pub's underground "tank"... whole process is without access of oxygen and light. You can't compare taste or color of such beer with some Miller bottle shipped overseas.
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