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Old 07-04-2009, 12:59 AM
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In the US, people are basically classified into Black/Latino/Asian/White categories. So a German and a Belarusan are simply considered White.
Whereas for example in Germany, a white Belarusan is just as ausländisch as a black Togolese.
HTH!
well said. as far as integration by passport status is the legal practice.
a subtle familiarization with culture(s) and histories may help with individual recognition of miserable social discrimination, when categories and systemic education no longer can. hopefully and imho.


p.s. to op's question: dating and hang out practices in old eu are very different from descriptions of what americans can let hang out at times.
no malice intended.

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Old 07-04-2009, 04:55 AM
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I actually saw it as very common. Maybe it was just the circles I was involved in? Generally couples would communicate in English whether or not that was either of their first languages. It tends to be more common among the higher educated.
Charolastra, you are a 20-something student, correct?
Perhaps things are changing with the younger generation, especially, as you say, the higher educated.
My American older son, 26, lives in northern France, and his circle (most of them college friends) are from everywhere: Scotland, New Zealand, France.
They are all dating different kinds of people, and now they are beginning to marry--one guy, an American, is marrying a Slovakian girl next month.
My kid's girlfriend is French, of Tunisian descent.
One thing they all seem to have in common is a facility with languages.

Effie, what are the dating differences?
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Old 07-04-2009, 04:58 AM
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one word: ERASMUS. Those from the UE know what I am talking about. This exchange program has dramatically increased the number of international relationships in the last 10 years
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Old 07-04-2009, 05:00 AM
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one word: ERASMUS. Those from the UE know what I am talking about. This exchange program has dramatically increased the number of international relationships in the last 10 years
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I feel like my kid is living that movie, both the original and the sequel, and he, an American, was never in the program!
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Old 07-04-2009, 05:35 AM
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Charolastra, you are a 20-something student, correct?
Perhaps things are changing with the younger generation, especially, as you say, the higher educated.
My American older son, 26, lives in northern France, and his circle (most of them college friends) are from everywhere: Scotland, New Zealand, France.
They are all dating different kinds of people, and now they are beginning to marry--one guy, an American, is marrying a Slovakian girl next month.
My kid's girlfriend is French, of Tunisian descent.
One thing they all seem to have in common is a facility with languages.

Effie, what are the dating differences?
i think you have the better empirics at hand already.

your specific question is best answered by your reading this week's german leading weekly.
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Old 07-04-2009, 05:41 AM
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My fiance is American, my Gran is Italian there are pretty much mixed races all over Europe.
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Old 07-04-2009, 12:16 PM
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Hmm... Nah, I don't think it's all that common, mostly because of the language barriers.

Especially with huge countries like France and Germany the people often suck badly at speaking other languages, so it'd be very problematic!!
I don't find that to be true at all. I find that most Europeans that I've met both in the U.S. and in Europe know at least one other foreign language. In my social circle, for example, nearly all the Europeans speak 2-3 languages fluently. I know one couple who speak a total of five languages between them.

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I actually saw it as very common. Maybe it was just the circles I was involved in? Generally couples would communicate in English whether or not that was either of their first languages. It tends to be more common among the higher educated.
True for my social circle as well, which consists primarily of research and medical doctors. It probably does have something to do with education level.
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Old 07-05-2009, 02:07 AM
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I don't see why not... In the school I went to and the circles I hung around with it happened all the time....

Same goes with Asians dealing with other Asians of different nationalities other than themselves...
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Old 07-05-2009, 09:03 AM
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Hmm... Nah, I don't think it's all that common, mostly because of the language barriers.

Especially with huge countries like France and Germany the people often suck badly at speaking other languages, so it'd be very problematic!!

Though my mom is from Norway and she married my dad, who is from Russia!


let me expand on your excellent translation skills just a little and with the hope of an ever-improving understanding.

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Old 07-10-2009, 10:57 AM
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the answer is yes. im Ireland so its a little bit different, its not exactly a crossroads of European culture like luxembourg/France/Germany/UK/Switzerland/Netherlands but as somebody mentioned things like ERASMUS is bringing Europeans together.


in my school we had an exchange programme in 4th year(i was 16), we went to nigmegan(netherlands) while they came here dublin(ireland), in fact my first kiss(wow i sound like a tool ) was with a pretty hot dutch girl

on holiday in spain and stuff, i always make friends with people from uk/netherlands/sweden and basically most places in europe.

my cousins were all born in norway(to irish mother, norwegian father) and myself was born in brussels(two irish parents though)

lol sorry for this crappy post but yes it does happen and always has.
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