Skilled immigration (fingerprinting, lawyer, find a job)

[ssd005]

Hello,

I am an East Indian who moved to the US about six year ago. I got my Master's degree in Computer Science here and must say that I have an above-average career in IT and a pretty decent job. As much as I like it over here, the "legal" immigration process for qualified people (especially Chinese/Indians) is a joke and it takes way too long for anyone to be patient!

Having said that, I was wondering which other countries are worth looking at, in terms of skilled immigration (IT/Computers), where it won't be too difficult for an Indian guy, with no issues with spoken English whatsoever, to migrate to and look for a promising career.

I don' think I would like to make any move unless I know for a fact that this place won't be no good for permanent residence, but still want to just expand my horizon and check out some other places.

Here are some obvious places that come to mind --

* Canada
* Australia
* New Zealand

Any discussion on this topic is welcome!

Cheers!

[bluebeard]

Originally Posted by sdeshpan

Hello,

I am an East Indian who moved to the US about six year ago. I got my Master's degree in Computer Science here and must say that I have an above-average career in IT and a pretty decent job. As much as I like it over here, the "legal" immigration process for qualified people (especially Chinese/Indians) is a joke and it takes way too long for anyone to be patient!

Having said that, I was wondering which other countries are worth looking at, in terms of skilled immigration (IT/Computers), where it won't be too difficult for an Indian guy, with no issues with spoken English whatsoever, to migrate to and look for a promising career.

I don' think I would like to make any move unless I know for a fact that this place won't be no good for permanent residence, but still want to just expand my horizon and check out some other places.

Here are some obvious places that come to mind --

* Canada
* Australia
* New Zealand

Any discussion on this topic is welcome!

Cheers!

Rumor is that Canada is easier to get into, harder to find a job. Last I knew, they had a points-based system you can look on their website to judge how easy it would be. Everything changes quickly these days tho.

[compSciGuy]

If you've been here for 6 years, you should be well on your way, and it would probably be more of an issue to start anew in those countries you mentioned. Are you concerned about the potential delay in bringing over close relatives (brothers / sisters of you or your wife)?

[ssd005]

Originally Posted by compSciGuy

If you've been here for 6 years, you should be well on your way, and it would probably be more of an issue to start anew in those countries you mentioned. Are you concerned about the potential delay in bringing over close relatives (brothers / sisters of you or your wife)?

Nah, I don't care about bringing relatives in...its tough to get settled here myself...the Green Card is a distant dream for now, after all the retrogression in the Employment-based categories...

[irman]

Originally Posted by sdeshpan

Nah, I don't care about bringing relatives in...its tough to get settled here myself...the Green Card is a distant dream for now, after all the retrogression in the Employment-based categories...

Whoa .... you have been here for 6 years plus, studied here, got your degree here, and you still have NO green card ?
Are you still then living here on your student visa or what ???

In my case, I came here by invitation of the US government.
May sound ridiculous, but in the early 60's, the European brain drain was going strong due the fact the the US was actually into a Spare Race with the rest of the world.
I thus received a *green card* immediately, and then lived here for 5 years, and then became a US citizen. During that time, the draft lottery was still going and I was *lucky enough* to be chosen to serve in the Armed Forces. Now that was kind of ridiculous, because the US Government invited me to work on the Space Programme (I have a Masters in Aeronautics) and then they draft my butt into the Armed Services ....
Whatever ......
Still had to wait for 5 years until I was able to start he process of becoming a citizen.

In your case, I think, what you need is get your employer to help you with your quest. I did the same thing for an employee of mine, and went trough all kinds of legal mumbo jumbo (that is really all I can call it. I am well versed in higher Mathematics and Physics, but I simply do not understand legal verbiage ... or double talk ...), but we got it done. He received his green card in a short time.

In short, your employer must create a need to keep you as a valued employee. He must advertise the job in several news papers, and then prove that you and you alone are the only employee, that can fill that job.
after that, we used an immigration lawyer to do the rest.

Again in our case, I mentioned that the applicant must be multi lingual with at least four languauges fluent, very few people are fluent in 4 languages (English, French, German and Dutch),
thus making the window of opportunity small,
must have a Masters degree in whatever discipline you have, imagine to be able to speak 4 languages fluent, PLUS having a Masters degree, again makes the window very small.
Only two applicants (they were both Dutch) applied and it was thus easy for me to ask questions that the applicants could not answer to *my satisfaction* ....
In reality, the requirements were for real !!!
We really needed a multi lingual person since we operate world wide.
A Masters Degree was the minimum I would accept, period, no if's, and's or but's.

In your case, you probably speak English plus your native tongue.
Your job however, *seems* today to be a dime a dozen.
Nothing negative about it but the IT industry today, was like Aerospace Engineering in the late 60's ..... We could pick and choose from a tremendous pool of young engineers.

Hope that this was a bit of help to get you going.

[oberon_1]

The naturalization and immigration process is a joke indeed. That is mainly because US is currently a confused country, with a huge immigration problem which it cannot handle and resolve.
To the OP - why not get back to India? There is demand for IT pros. You may also find employers who will provide sponsorship with the green card.

[irman]

Originally Posted by oberon_1

The naturalization and immigration process is a joke indeed. That is mainly because US is currently a confused country, with a huge immigration problem which it cannot handle and resolve.
To the OP - why not get back to India? There is demand for IT pros. You may also find employers who will provide sponsorship with the green card.

Only if you do not understand what those cats are all about. I agree, some of it does not make sense, but what DOES make sense is that the immigration laws do favor highly skilled people.
But, if there is a glut of certain *highly skilled people*, it will be harder to get somebody to listen and act.

As I mentioned before, not knowing what the OP really does for a living, IT jobs are all over the place now and everybody wants to get on the bandwagon.

You lost me with your last sentence.
The OP mentioned that he does NOT have a green card ... yet.
So finding an employer in India to sponsor him for the green card .... ????

[oberon_1]

Originally Posted by irman

Only if you do not understand what those cats are all about. I agree, some of it does not make sense, but what DOES make sense is that the immigration laws do favor highly skilled people.
But, if there is a glut of certain *highly skilled people*, it will be harder to get somebody to listen and act.

As I mentioned before, not knowing what the OP really does for a living, IT jobs are all over the place now and everybody wants to get on the bandwagon.

You lost me with your last sentence.
The OP mentioned that he does NOT have a green card ... yet.
So finding an employer in India to sponsor him for the green card .... ????

Yes. Many Indian companies keep a presence in the US. Their employees are Indian citizens, sponsored by the company to work in the US. In the past it was quite popular and the company paid even relocation to US. Today, thats less frequent, but still exists.
The immigration process should be simplified for both the applicant and the US. Today its a hodgepodge of laws and regulations that were put in place over decades. The process should be simple, letting applicants know in advance how long it will take and what their status is at every moment. The way it works now, they can tell you after a year of waiting that they didn't get your application or a crucial document is missing. They fingerprint you, but if your appointment is delayed (by them), the fingerprinting should be repeated because its not fresh. Things like that make the whole process an ordeal.

[irman]

@ Oberon:
OK, understand you now.

[Ketabcha]

Well, I don't understand any of this. Why is the immigration process taking so long? Have you talked to an immigration lawyer?

I think you should stay here.

You are not related to Sanjay Dutt are you? jk