Anyone from Spain?

[dougie86]

Hispanic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

quoting from the link given above:
"Spanish and African peoples are not considered Hispanic."

Spanish are Europeans. The first things come to my mind about Spain are:
- Spanish Aramada
- Philip II of Spain, co-Monarch of England, married Mary I of Scotland
- Mary I of Scotland, half-sister of Elizabeth I, daughter of Henry VIII

I have met and befriended people from Spain, Argentina, Chile, Peru, Guatamala, and Costa Rica. And I can tell the subtle and not-so-subtle differences between the Spanish, the Latin-Americans and the Hispanic Americans.

[Eduardo983]

Originally Posted by XodoX

No. I lived in Spain several years. If I recall correctly, it was 93% white. They are white. 40% of the immigrants are from Latin America, 10% non Spaniard = 4% Latin America. Just ask a Spaniard

http://www.ine.es/prensa/np551.pdf

And, I agree with the previous poster! Now he says he's Mexican. Before that he was white.

The majority of immigrants (from the American continent) who relocate to Europe are European returnees (dual citizens)

[Sandpointian]

Originally Posted by Skatergirl

I tried to befriend a mom and her daughter at my son's school that are from Spain. She and my son were in the same class and played at school when they could. I held a party and invited the class over so that this woman's daughter could meet more of the children in her class and get to know them outside of school. I talked with her and some other moms about it and they loved the idea. Many showed, but the woman and her daughter ddi not. She never replied to my calls or evites. I later asked her about it and she just said she was busy. I didn't know what to make of it, so I just let it go.

I did another party for the kids a month later (low key, games and play and snacks). This time I called her and spoke with her. She said maybe, she said if it rained they would stay home and then she would come to the party. She never came or called.

We did see each other around town and on the playground. We would talk and such. But, this year with the start of school I saw her and greeted her warmly. Another woman walked up while we were talking and she greeted this woman and turned away from me. She never introduced me or said anything. She was done with me, I guess.

She's so social with other moms, but I noticed that if I don't say hello to her first, she won't speak to me. As I've reflected about our past interactions, I noticed that all of the moms I;ve seen her with are Hispanic. She obviously has a comfort level with Spanish woman and not white women. This still hurts. Is there more of a racial thing going on than I know? We did, I thought, have a lot in common, so I thought we had many things to talk about. What's your take? Does this sound like a racial thing?

I would back off the jumping to conclusions. Not everybody is perky and chipper. There could be 1000 reasons for why. She may be dealing with things unknown to anyone. Maybe speaking English wears her out...much easier to speak in your native tongue.

And yes, maybe she is a racial bigot...

Bake her a pie. Take it over WITHOUT expecting a single favor in return. take comfort in doing the right thing rather than making an overt play for her affections.

S.

[XodoX]

Originally Posted by noela

Quoting from your link:

Hispanic and Latino Americans are Americans of origins in Hispanic countries of Latin America or in Spain.

Since I'm European, not American, I'm not Hispanic according to the definition provided by yourself. I'm Caucasian (may I add). So there.

Origin can be viewed as the heritage, nationality group, lineage, or country of birth of the person or the person's parents or ancestors before their arrival in the United States. People who identify their origin as Spanish, Hispanic, or Latino may be of any race.

So, it's not a racial, ethnic or national definition. There is little many of those countries have in common besides language.
Hispanic, from the Latin word for "Spain," has the broader reference, potentially encompassing all Spanish-speaking peoples in both hemispheres and emphasizing the common denominator of language among communities that sometimes have little else in common. Latino—which in Spanish means "Latin" but which as an English word is probably a shortening of the Spanish word latinoamericano—refers more exclusively to persons or communities of Latin American origin.

So, since it's more a linguistic definition than anything else, I still think it's pointless when describing ethnicity. The American countries have a very rich heritage of which European (be it Spanish or French or Portuguese) culture is merely a tiny fraction in most of them.

Don't worry. They just don't get it, plus have not been to Spain, ayway.

[Housemartin]

I can't understand the Census criteria. I'm basque, spaniard, european like frenchs.... and I'm not "hyspanic". I'm caucasian.

The Census criteria are not scientific criteria, not at all. Being Hyspanic isn't a race. When I was child we studied five races (don't bother or laugh: white, black, yellow, indian and aceitunada (sic) . Afroamerican, Hyspanics, what is that?

But I must say it's the same with south americans. A lot aren't natives, they are caucasian, caucasian race, not indian, mestizo...

By the way, what about Obama? Black (afroamerican), isn't?
Well, he is 50% black, but 50% white. Why he isn't white?