Hats off to all 60's Bra-burners! NOT! (insurance, loan)

[wolfcreekgal]

rawethe, Congratulations sweet lady! What do YOU think about Illinois and why are considering moving to Wyoming, if I may be so bold as to ask.

[wolfcreekgal]

Ok, we're moving to Sheridan come hell or high water. My husband is working his rear end off to make the money we'll need as well as selling off everything he has that isn't nailed down. (hehe) I think he'd even sell the 5 tattoos on his body if someone would make a decent offer. ; ) I'm kidding of course, but in all honesty, I've never seen someone as gung-ho about a move as he is. He's got me here apackin' away!
I suspect I'd me more excited if we had a place there, but the idea of calling a large cardboard box home doesn't sound too awfully appealing to me. My sister keeps telling me to send her our new address as soon as we know and I tell her it will be something like Bridge #120 cardboard box #1. She laughs, but I'm beginning to wonder if I can predict the future. I keep having these vivid dreams, nightmares really, of trying to fry Spam on the hot pavement outside of our humble abode while my two year old son is attempting to make a friend out of the snarling wolf that has happened upon the smell of Spam.

Ok, I'm sane enough to know this scenario is worst case. Surely we can afford a tent, for heaven's sake! But is that so much better? Being a die-hard (no pun intended) horror movie fan, the tent thing bugs me even more. You never see a couple being jerked , kicking and screaming, from a cardboard box. But tents.......oh man. You're just asking for trouble. It's like, here I am come and get me!

[rawethe]

Originally Posted by wolfcreekgal

rawethe, Congratulations sweet lady! What do YOU think about Illinois and why are considering moving to Wyoming, if I may be so bold as to ask.

Thanks! I moved into IL from St. Louis because of school to get in-state fees. However I prefered the small town that I moved to over the craziness of the city. Yet I also have only been in IL for about 4-5 years so I don't know that I could give a great account for IL's issues or pluses. I have spent the whole time working and going to school...no life really.

Why WY? At first it was just due to the job offer- which is perfect for me. Since then it has become more about the return to small town familiarity (I've lived that before), the availability of outdoor adventure, and just seeing more of the world. I have traveled (A LOT) and one area I have not spent much time is the northwest. I'm intrigued to see more of the exact location when I go in a week and a half. I'm spending 4 days...I know it's not a lot but hopefully enough to get a sense of the community.

[wyolady]

Originally Posted by wolfcreekgal

Ok, we're moving to Sheridan come hell or high water. My husband is working his rear end off to make the money we'll need as well as selling off everything he has that isn't nailed down. (hehe) I think he'd even sell the 5 tattoos on his body if someone would make a decent offer. ; ) I'm kidding of course, but in all honesty, I've never seen someone as gung-ho about a move as he is. He's got me here apackin' away!
I suspect I'd me more excited if we had a place there, but the idea of calling a large cardboard box home doesn't sound too awfully appealing to me. My sister keeps telling me to send her our new address as soon as we know and I tell her it will be something like Bridge #120 cardboard box #1. She laughs, but I'm beginning to wonder if I can predict the future. I keep having these vivid dreams, nightmares really, of trying to fry Spam on the hot pavement outside of our humble abode while my two year old son is attempting to make a friend out of the snarling wolf that has happened upon the smell of Spam.

Ok, I'm sane enough to know this scenario is worst case. Surely we can afford a tent, for heaven's sake! But is that so much better? Being a die-hard (no pun intended) horror movie fan, the tent thing bugs me even more. You never see a couple being jerked , kicking and screaming, from a cardboard box. But tents.......oh man. You're just asking for trouble. It's like, here I am come and get me!

wolfcreekgal, have you considered becoming a writer of YA fiction from home? Your post had me in stitches (LOL really)- especially the part about your son making a friend of a snarling wolf. I got a vivid picture in my mind of the whole dream. Fun aside, I hope your experience at landing housing is a positive one. Those men are hard to cool down when they get their minds set on something, huh?!?!?

[wolfcreekgal]

wyolady,
Haha, thanks for the vote of confidence! Wyomians seem to have a great sense of humor, one of the many reasons I'm ready to move there.
You're SO right about men. Usually, my husband is pretty sensible and it amazes me how relentless he has become about this move. However, his new job there IS going to be much easier on him than the one he has here so, I understand his persistence.

[tigergal]

Originally Posted by wolfcreekgal

Hi there,
I'm a baby-boomer born in 63' and I have to say I TOTALLY disagree with the women's rights movement. Back when I was born women wanted to be treated like men and created a movement to do just that. It succeeded in a way that has had diverse effects for over 40 years.
In the year of my birth, a family could purchase a 3 bedroom home for under $12,000 anywhere in the continental U.S. No one will convince me that inflation alone can cause the median price of a family home to jump over $100k in 43 years. In fact, based on inflation alone, a 3 bedroom home SHOULD cost 80k now.
Women raising a stink in the 60's caused the problems we are all experiencing today. I just happen to be a mom who doesn't want her kids raised in a child care center just to make ends meet. I'm no June Cleaver, but I'd like to hear commentary from other women like myself.
Y'know, no men seem to be chivalrous anymore. MILLIONS of gals are looking for something that no longer exists thanks to the women's movement. I think men need to know that there are MANY gals out there who appreciate their efforts and have NO desire to compete with them. God created MAN first.

Equality is causation for inflation? Interesting concept, though I really doubt it would fly in any economic circles. I'm sure that in the year of your birth that people could purchase a house for $12,000. My parents certainly did. Of course, the price of things wasn't all that increased. Or are you volunteering to go back to the yearly income which purchased a house for $12,000?

Considering that Wyoming blazed the trail for women's equality, a desire to get away from it astounds me. The first women's suffrage vote in the nation was actually cast in this fine state. Wyoming was also the first official government in the entire world to grant women's suffrage.

[rawethe]

Originally Posted by tigergal

Equality is causation for inflation? Interesting concept, though I really doubt it would fly in any economic circles. I'm sure that in the year of your birth that people could purchase a house for $12,000. My parents certainly did. Of course, the price of things wasn't all that increased. Or are you volunteering to go back to the yearly income which purchased a house for $12,000?

Considering that Wyoming blazed the trail for women's equality, a desire to get away from it astounds me. The first women's suffrage vote in the nation was actually cast in this fine state. Wyoming was also the first official government in the entire world to grant women's suffrage.

Very cool...I didn't know that!

[wolfcreekgal]

tigergal,
Very interesting indeed! However, I will always believe the need for two incomes nowadays has caused the rise in housing costs. The yearly income 43 years ago was a meager $5200. Breaking that down one arrives at a figure of $2.50 an hour. Not too bad, considering that minimum wage in most states is only $6 an hour today.
The average income in the U.S. today is $46,000 and I'd be willing to bet that figure is based on two incomes for the most part. The reason I say this is because throughout my life, I've known few people who make over 30k a year alone.
The average cost of a home now is $175,000. No wonder so many people are having a hard time making ends meet. My husband makes $25 an hour and I stay home. We live so far down on the totem pole we can smell the grass. I'm not complaining, I'm just wondering how anyone can afford a house these days and still eat.

[jkb826]

Hello everyone --- I am new to this forum but I thought I needed to say a few things. First off,I am a Wyoming native, live in Sheridan, have most all of my life other than a few years in Powell and Cody. I love Sheridan and probably never will move from here. I would never want to discourage anyone from moving here but I think you need to realize that this is no paradise. The housing situation here is awful. Few rental, and they are very costly, House prices are riduculous and hard to find. The weather can be tough. Lately we have had alot of hot days, 90 and above. We do however cool off at night and that is wonderful. The winters can be quite mild but then they can be a week or two of not breaking 0. The springs and fall are in my opinion the greatest. just too short. Wyoming is know to have a drug problem and that is the truth. They are everywhere and easily accessable.

Now for some of the good things.. the great outdoors, lots of it and most everyone has access to it. The Bighorn Mountains are in my opinion some of the most people friendly mountains you will ever find. Lots of hunting and camping areas all over them. Not that overly crowded but can become somewhat at times. We have a good educational system for our children. The health care is ok but there are some options that are not to far to travel to. Traffic is wonderful, find it hard to understand how anyone has to spend 1 to 2 hours of their day commuting to work. I recently changed jobs and went for a 5 minute commute to a 13 minute commute and really complained about it.

I just want everyone to be aware that moving here is not going to be easy. Money is not growing on trees. If fact I can name about 3 families that I know of at this time are moving out of Sheridan because they just can not make a go of it here.

I hope this helps someone with their decision and once again I dont want to discourge anyone but just be realistic. I love it here and hope that everyone here does the same and make Wyoming a even greater place to live.

[pumasense]

Wolfcreekgal,
You seem to be inteligent, yet you are young. What do YOU think about the mom that stays home,nurses her babies, makes her own bread, has her garden (of Eden!!) yet one day finds the children grown up, the husband is a drunk now and he beates her? Should she not be able to drive a semi (after all she wasn't a mini van mom, the family raced ATV's and she hauled the horses throughout 12 states) given that she dosn't have great social skills and she has a ranch to support. Shouldn't she be able to vote on how her taxes are spent? Or do you think she should stay and the MAN should have the right to beat her as he did before the "womans movement"?
As a good traditional woman perhaps you would like to contribute to your new comunity when you move by volunteering at your local womans shelter?
If you go back before the roman Empire (which was based on power and control) traditional women pulled together for what was best for the children. Good men are wonderfull, sadly though not all are good; there for we need the protection of the laws so we may survive.
I believe we don't need to go backword but to further our knowlage and compassion to eliminate hate, envy, and prejudeses, seeking more jobs that are chalanging and pay well for women to do from home if they need.