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Since you have considered Montana and North Dakota (which has no mountain views), can I ask what made you hone in on the 4 cities on which you've honed? Perhaps if we knew your criteria that made those 4 stand out, we might be able to lend thoughts on other places that might meet those criteria in a more economical fashion.
we had researched on this site and we looked for low crime, low natural disasters, and what we had thought was affordable living. we also wanted to get out to the west where we feel we need to be. those 4 cities were the ones that stood out from the ones that have 6000 plus residents. i am starting to look more into montana too. the mountains are an added bonus and im kind of superficial in wanting them, they aren't required but i would love to be by them.....we are looking for the qualities i listed above in a town. i had thought based on the data this site had that things were a lot more affordable than what i am hearing.....i was partial to sheridan more because i felt it was the best if both worlds with being in wyoming and near montana...I've been feeling a bit discouraged after all the info I've been reading on this thread.....the rents that are above 800 is a bit higher than what i was looking to spend....i am thinking home ownership is a better route but we need to rent first to get our feet in the door and rent first......ill be on disability so i am going to have a guaranteed income and my husband will be working to add to the income. i do not know what an hourly wage is out there.....i know it depends on what a person does (of course)......its not very easy to locate all the info that is needed especially when the stats are off which is why i have turned to the forum for assistance
[quote=Pooka218;21772260]we had researched on this site and we looked for low crime, low natural disasters, and what we had thought was affordable living. we also wanted to get out to the west where we feel we need to be. those 4 cities were the ones that stood out from the ones that have 6000 plus residents. i am starting to look more into montana too. the mountains are an added bonus and im kind of superficial in wanting them, they aren't required but i would love to be by them.....we are looking for the qualities i listed above in a town. i had thought based on the data this site had that things were a lot more affordable than what i am hearing.....i was partial to sheridan more because i felt it was the best if both worlds with being in wyoming and near montana...I've been feeling a bit discouraged after all the info I've been reading on this thread.....the rents that are above 800 is a bit higher than what i was looking to spend....i am thinking home ownership is a better route but we need to rent first to get our feet in the door and rent first......ill be on disability so i am going to have a guaranteed income and my husband will be working to add to the income. i do not know what an hourly wage is out there.....i know it depends on what a person does (of course)......its not very easy to locate all the info that is needed especially when the stats are off which is why i have turned to the forum for assistance[/
From my personal experience I found the 13 years I lived in Montana to be quite a bit more costly than living in Wyoming. One reason I came back to my beautiful home state!
From my personal experience I found the 13 years I lived in Montana to be quite a bit more costly than living in Wyoming. One reason I came back to my beautiful home state!
is montana generally more expensive then? i really have had my heart set on wyoming and it does look beautiful and i want this to work....there has to be a town out there that rents are cheaper than $1000
is montana generally more expensive then? i really have had my heart set on wyoming and it does look beautiful and i want this to work....there has to be a town out there that rents are cheaper than $1000
Montana tends to be more expensive because they do have income tax. We went through the same type of considerations that you are for the past few years before moving out here. I'm not much help on what the prevailing hourly wages are because my husband negotiated salary on the job that brought us here to Cody. I know when we were choosing a town in which to live, Powell and Lovell were considerably more reasonable than here. I also know that rents in this area are more affordable if you start a lease outside of the tourism-worker season in the summer. Less than $1000 rent can be done in Powell. It has your mountain view and you're close to Montana with only about a 1.5 hour drive to Billings which has nearly anything you'd need. Powell has a small hospital and Cody has a hospital in the top 10% nationwide of rural hospitals.
Montana tends to be more expensive because they do have income tax. We went through the same type of considerations that you are for the past few years before moving out here. I'm not much help on what the prevailing hourly wages are because my husband negotiated salary on the job that brought us here to Cody. I know when we were choosing a town in which to live, Powell and Lovell were considerably more reasonable than here. I also know that rents in this area are more affordable if you start a lease outside of the tourism-worker season in the summer. Less than $1000 rent can be done in Powell. It has your mountain view and you're close to Montana with only about a 1.5 hour drive to Billings which has nearly anything you'd need. Powell has a small hospital and Cody has a hospital in the top 10% nationwide of rural hospitals.
theres no income tax in wyoming? wow
its been a rough road trying to figure out where we are going....been at this for almost 2 years id say....ill have to look into powell and lovell...i think i started checking powell and it was sounding pretty good....thank you for the input
New York winters are nothing like most of Wyoming's winters for duration and intensity as well as cold temperatures and wind child factor.
Your experience sounds like you are acclimated to low altitude riparian climates. There's many attributes to moving to a higher elevation desert clime which are significant and cannot be readily forecast as to how they will affect you and your family. There are many potential health issues which can present given the low humidity, cold temps, and 15% less oxygen due to the lesser air density at altitude. Some you may be tolerant of, some may be nothing more than a nuisance ... and some may present significant issues for you and or a family member.
Wyoming's vast remoteness is nothing like the population density and development of the Eastern USA. Be aware that half of this state is public lands, so the distances between communities, let alone towns with significant commercial & medical development, can be rather long in mileage and time to access.
Tell her how much you're willing to pay for the places that you'll consider moving your ranch operation that you're looking to buy.
You and I both know that her husband's wages making pizza won't go very far toward a deposit on a down payment for either ....
There good deals on house to rent around the valley plus there a few pizza places from Alpine-Thayne -Afton. Yea there no way they could get into a ranch... the one we were looking at got listed and less then a month it is under contract , so we just setting back and looking at differint options.
New York winters are nothing like most of Wyoming's winters for duration and intensity as well as cold temperatures and wind child factor.
Your experience sounds like you are acclimated to low altitude riparian climates. There's many attributes to moving to a higher elevation desert clime which are significant and cannot be readily forecast as to how they will affect you and your family. There are many potential health issues which can present given the low humidity, cold temps, and 15% less oxygen due to the lesser air density at altitude. Some you may be tolerant of, some may be nothing more than a nuisance ... and some may present significant issues for you and or a family member.
Wyoming's vast remoteness is nothing like the population density and development of the Eastern USA. Be aware that half of this state is public lands, so the distances between communities, let alone towns with significant commercial & medical development, can be rather long in mileage and time to access.
i understand what u are saying and i will consider visiting first to get a feel of how things are
If you really are committed to living in Wyoming, consider areas without mountains views. You can always visit the mountains on overnights and such. We have great mountains within relatively short distances in most, if not all, of the state. Really, although the mountains are beautiful, they are not representative of what living here is all about.
A person can do well here if they are willing to work. It's easier if you have a marketable degree or get on in an energy-related field. But, I'm reminded of the mayor of one of my favorite small towns who had five part-time jobs in order to live there. She did well and had a fun life, but not much time to sit on the porch even if she had a mountain view. Living with mountain views increases the cost. Some say "you have to be able to eat the scenery." I heard the same saying when I worked near the Black Hills.
No offense to my current home area, but I probably won't be retiring right here.
If you really are committed to living in Wyoming, consider areas without mountains views. You can always visit the mountains on overnights and such. We have great mountains within relatively short distances in most, if not all, of the state. Really, although the mountains are beautiful, they are not representative of what living here is all about.
A person can do well here if they are willing to work. It's easier if you have a marketable degree or get on in an energy-related field. But, I'm reminded of the mayor of one of my favorite small towns who had five part-time jobs in order to live there. She did well and had a fun life, but not much time to sit on the porch even if she had a mountain view. Living with mountain views increases the cost. Some say "you have to be able to eat the scenery." I heard the same saying when I worked near the Black Hills.
No offense to my current home area, but I probably won't be retiring right here.
that is true...mounains can be seen if we take a trip...in which case this expands my horizons so to speak (pardon the pun)....that would greatly increase our chances of getting into a place that is more affordable...that is some good advice that i had not even thought of....i got so wrapped up in the thought of living near mountains that i didn't even think about visiting areas with them....now the trick is to locate areas that fit into our ideal financial situation...sorta back to square one now but that is ok
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