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Old 02-09-2012, 08:49 AM
 
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Default Wind River Indian Reservation made nat'l news

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/03/us...anal.html?_r=1


Very sad situation out there...not sure what the answer is
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Old 02-09-2012, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Wyoming
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Nothing like an extreme liberal from NY, who probably didn't even know Wyoming was actually a state in this union before he got the assignment, coming out and writing about the plight of a reservation in central Wyoming.

In typical reporting fashion he has taken a problem and broad brush painted a whole race of people, cental Wyoming, and, to some extent, the state of Wyoming with it.

I have lived around the WR reservation for many years and can tell you that the vast majority of the residents living on the reservation are good law abiding people. It's not the Beirut war zone he painted with that big brush. I'm not saying they don't have their fair share of problems, or even a little more than their fair share; but it is like any other race of people, community, or region of this country; they have their share of bad elements.

Alcohol continues to be the biggest problem and at the root of almost all crimes and deaths. However, both tribes continue to try to improve the problems and, like the drug problems in inner cities, it is an ongoing process.

Again, typical of the press, he focused and emballished all the negatives with the WR reservation. Why not focus on the positives to give the residents something to aspire to. Though I was opposed to it, the casino just completed a 90 room hotel with plans to add another 90 rooms in the near future. It now employs over 600 people most of them Native Am.. For every high school drop out there are more that are going on to at least Jr. college. They own and operate a beautiful 300,000 acre ranch in the Thermopolis and are marketing grass fed beef from their 5,000 hd cow herd. The list goes on.

If I read his article and knew nothing more than what he wrote I would avoid central Wyoming and maybe Wyoming all together in fear of getting caught in a third world war. He needs to stay on the east coast and report on their problems.
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Old 02-09-2012, 03:52 PM
 
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Nothing like an extreme liberal from NY, who probably didn't even know Wyoming was actually a state in this union before he got the assignment...

...If I read his article and knew nothing more than what he wrote I would avoid central Wyoming and maybe Wyoming all together in fear of getting caught in a third world war. He needs to stay on the east coast and report on their problems.
Great response.

The article is old and the NYT is not a reasonable source for what it considers news on the Wind River. The statistics available to most reporters don't give an accurate picture of life, or even just the numbers, on a reservation.

If you really care, rya700, read the reservation and tribes websites. The tribes are the Northern Arapahoe and Shosones. There is a lot of positive happening there and on other reservations around the country.

I think the bad and negative press serves some weird purpose for those who write and read it, but does nothing good for Indian country!
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Old 02-09-2012, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Ka-nah-da
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It's not the Beirut war zone he painted with that big brush.
When's the last time you've been to beirut? Let's not be hypocritical.
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Old 02-09-2012, 11:01 PM
 
Location: Wyoming
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While most reservations are not pleasant places to be, I doubt the Wind River is as bad as Pine Ridge, Rosebud, or Standing Rock. Those are like Third World countries.
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Old 02-09-2012, 11:50 PM
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Location: Cody, WY
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The article seemed factual, certainly not sensationalized. I've never been farther into the reservation than the gas pumps at the casino. But even stopping for gas provides a glimpse of a world that is very different from the rest of Wyoming.

I think we can forgive the reporter for falling for the tall tale of boiling water to remove chemicals. Explosive fumes coming from bathwater seems like the kind of tale a couple of teenagers would cook up. Indian reservations are bad places but tourists will never encounter this sort of place as they travel around the state. I'll add an interesting tidbit. Wyoming Indian reservations, along with those in other states, gave Obama some of highest percentages of votes in the country. Draw your own conclusions about that.
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Old 02-10-2012, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Spots Wyoming
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I might note that Wyoming only has ONE Indian Reservation and it is shared by Multiple Tribes. Not sure if that is a factor or not.
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Old 02-10-2012, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Great response.

The article is old and the NYT is not a reasonable source for what it considers news on the Wind River. The statistics available to most reporters don't give an accurate picture of life, or even just the numbers, on a reservation.

If you really care, rya700, read the reservation and tribes websites. The tribes are the Northern Arapahoe and Shosones. There is a lot of positive happening there and on other reservations around the country.

I think the bad and negative press serves some weird purpose for those who write and read it, but does nothing good for Indian country!
Old? It is dated from the first of this month.

It's probably this guy, who needed directions how to get there from Lander. Driving distance from Lander to Wind River Reservaton
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Old 02-10-2012, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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I've been wondering for a while why the Wind River Reservation is listed as a separate town in Wyoming on the City-Data page. http://www.city-data.com/city/Wind-River-Wyoming.html
It would make sense to report the reservation demographics separately, but I'm not sure they are doing so. That page reports that 66% of the residents are white and only 27% are American Indian; that unemployment is 8.1%, that the poverty level is 21%, only 10% have less then 50% of the poverty level income, estimated median household income: $42,360, Estimated median house or condo value: $150,903. Does that information sound correct to anyone else? It does not to me.

If it is correct, then they are much better off then some of the poorer neighborhoods in my relatively affluent community, one of the fastest growing cities in the U.S.

I'm wondering if they included Riverton in the demographics above, as the Map of the reservation does include Riverton?

I would have believed the sad picture they painted of the reservation back in 1968-71 when I lived in the area and made deliveries from a furniture, hardware and lumber yard to the reservation. I saw some sad sights back then, alcoholism was rampant, but I had been told things had improved a lot.
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Old 02-10-2012, 02:12 PM
 
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Not sure why BranDCalf assumes I dont care - I live in Fremont County and my husband is employed by the Shoshoni tribe. I saw this article b/c a Native American aquaintance posted it on facebook. Regardless of what you think of the artice, how can you argue the fact that there have been some very heinous crimes on the reservation on recent years, many against children. I don't think the statistics were too far off.

I agree that the tribes themselves have alot going for them currently, not only the casino, ranch, but their oil/natural gas reserves. Last night I read in the newspaper that Indian Health Services is going to greatly expand their services and are going to be hiring many more health care workers in the next couple of years.

I find it interesting what the nat'l news media has to say about wyoming - whether or not one agrees with it - that is fine. That is what free speech/ journalism is all about.
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