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Old 01-31-2013, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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This absolutely must vary by state. I teach in Wyoming, and every few weeks, we have a lockdown and they bring in drug and gun dogs. About a month ago, they found 2 hunting weapons in student vehicles on school property. Neither student was expelled; suspended for like 10 days.
If this is true I want to know what happened to the Fourth Amendment. Are the government schools now teaching that it's no longer relevant? Are government schoolteachers using this as an indoctrination tool to train children to accept a police state? I can't believe that this is policy in our state, one of the very few states where people still value freedom.

This the worst thing I've ever read about Wyoming. I thought lockdowns applied strictly to prisons.

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Old 01-31-2013, 06:46 PM
 
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Wow. I don't know what part of Wyoming she's from. I wasn't aware that any of our school districts had regular, or even frequent and random, lockdowns.

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Old 01-31-2013, 10:47 PM
 
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Wow. I don't know what part of Wyoming she's from. I wasn't aware that any of our school districts had regular, or even frequent and random, lockdowns.
It can happen anywhere.
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Old 02-01-2013, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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It can happen anywhere.
Schools here in Cody have random lockdowns for drills. Also, on the day of the Newtown, CT massacre, I know Cody Middle School went into lockdown for several hours to search the school and make sure everything was as it should be.
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Old 02-01-2013, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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Schools here in Cody have random lockdowns for drills. Also, on the day of the Newtown, CT massacre, I know Cody Middle School went into lockdown for several hours to search the school and make sure everything was as it should be.
We need to stop this if we don't wish to turn children into slaves who accept a government that has absolute power while people must obey. We must defend constitutional government and fight those who would destroy it.

Get your children out of government schools, folks. Teach them to fear and distrust government just as the Founding Fathers did. Now, here's a trick. See if you can file lawsuits against individual employees. See if you can file criminal charges. This is so serious that we must do something.

If you can't get your children out now teach them what's right and teach them to talk about teachers as Marxists and believers in the Soviet system when they're at school. They'll be doing nothing more than telling the truth.

In Hungary in 1956 students of all ages began to sing the banned Hungarian national anthem when the teachers ordered them to sing the Communist Internationale. They then left the schools. Many died when the Soviet tanks arrived but they died as men and women regardless of their ages. The federal government, I'm sure, would happily send tanks to murder students here but they can't yet. Twenty years ago they tried to begin slavery in this country when the Clintons ordered the Waco massacre. However, they paid a penalty for that and backed off.

Demand that they respect the Fourth Amendment rights of you and your children. Don't allow them to proceed with their evil schemes. You didn't grow up with this and you must make sure that your children don't. Those children need to grow up believing in freedoom. Otherwise it's farewell to freedom.
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Old 02-01-2013, 02:21 PM
 
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Schools here in Cody have random lockdowns for drills. Also, on the day of the Newtown, CT massacre, I know Cody Middle School went into lockdown for several hours to search the school and make sure everything was as it should be.
If it's for drills, then I can understand. One has to be prepared. It still feels kind of extreme though. The high school I went to, as far as I know, never had a lockdown. Bad things can happen anywhere. These shootings at Newtown, and a few more that have happened are proof of that.
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Old 02-01-2013, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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Here's what local folks think. I'm with the solution that got the most votes. Locking doors is fine as an additional measure.

‘Arm teachers,’ ‘lock doors’ top poll - Cody Enterprise: Local News
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Old 02-01-2013, 03:20 PM
 
Location: In a city
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The only school district I work in of five that has regular lock-down/ drug dogs is the one that is on the Reservation. Granted I'm in Minnesota... this same school is the only one of the five with an armed police officer on duty every day during school hours.
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Old 02-01-2013, 03:56 PM
 
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There is a difference between a lockdown and a drug dog sweep. Two very different things. Lockdown drills are mandated in the state twice a school year (just as we have to have several fire drills). Drug dogs are brought in on a random basis. The school is not "locked down", but teachers are expected to keep students in their rooms and not allow them to wander the halls during these sweeps. It happens everywhere, not just Wyoming. Big schools or tiny schools like ours, it is a regular occurrence.
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Old 02-01-2013, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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There is a difference between a lockdown and a drug dog sweep. Two very different things. Lockdown drills are mandated in the state twice a school year (just as we have to have several fire drills). Drug dogs are brought in on a random basis. The school is not "locked down", but teachers are expected to keep students in their rooms and not allow them to wander the halls during these sweeps. It happens everywhere, not just Wyoming. Big schools or tiny schools like ours, it is a regular occurrence.
Fire drills are for the benefit ofpeople who occupy a building, any building. Police drills do not benefit anyone and they violate the Fourth Amendment rights of students. This needs to stop.

The Wyoming Supreme Court has set a higher standard for search and seizure than the federal government. Put me down for a thousand if someone will make a test case.

The real answer, of course, is a statewide voucher system.
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