Why are people leaving Wyoming (Laramie, Sheridan: rent, big home, find a job)

[ElkHunter]

Like I mentioned earlier in a post. I firmly believe that the long time residents are still here and not leaving. It's the boom and bust cycle.

Back in the 70's I worked construction. If Wyoming had the hot spot for a job, I came into the state and worked the job. When it was done, I went back home to work there until the next boom hit.

Yes, I"m a transplant, but then again, who isn't?

But truth be known, a man/woman goes where the work is. You gotta feed your family. When the bust hits, well, where are you going to be able to keep feeding the family.

The one thing that got me was I kept looking for things in Wyoming because I loved it here. Boring???? That all depends on how you look at it and what you want in life.

I'm happy to stop by the VFW and drink a beer with my buddy's. I don't need any more excitement then that.

I go to rodeo's, school plays, community fairs, city street dance, bar-b-q's put on by the Mayor (haven't seen any of them in a while). Pig roasts, gun shows, even the doll show at the fair grounds.

There's always something going on around here.

Do I want the fast life of dressing in a suit and drinking out of fine china? No thanks. I'll take a cold mug and my friends where I don't have to put on aire's. I can enjoy a night out for Pizza as well as somebody in the big city enjoys a night out of fine dining. Matter of fact, I'll bet I have more fun with the Pizza night.

We got just the right number of stores in this town. I can find anything I "NEED". Is there a good place for shopping for IPOD's? No. But what the heck would I do with an IPOD? A simple cell phone does everything I need. No, it don't have a camera. I didn't sign up for texting. Don't need any ITunes. Just an occasional phone call.

So, yeah. To some it might be boring. But it's all in what you make it.

Some people leave because of work. Some leave because the harsh winters get under their skin. Some just leave to leave. But the long term residents, are still here.

[Kele]

Originally Posted by Las Vegas_Moneyman

I am resident of Las Vegas, NV and am doing research on people moving from Wyoming to Las Vegas, NV. I have interviewed dozens of people. Thus far, my data indicates that many people from Wyoming are quite dull, they do not quite fit in a large metropolis of many cultures, and their choice of fashion is out-dated. Many persons from Wyoming who leave the state claim that Wyoming is a very boring state.

Please continue to spread that little piece of tripe far and wide. Wyoming is dull, there really is nothing worth seeing or doing here, that's for sure. Wyoming has no fashion sense, and our table manners are atrocious. We really shouldn't be allowed around polite company. Be sure to tell all of the polite company in Las Vegas and westward that they don't want to be caught dead in our state.

Much obliged.

[Artful-Thang]

Originally Posted by thomas paine

Love Wyoming..Guess I'm just a cowboy at heart, but Wyoming is the best. I love it because it is a close to America's heritage of independence, freedom, and cuture that is, in my view, available today. The small government is the cure all and Wyoming is a perfect example. I love the fact you need a birth certificate to get your license, this keeps the illegals out, or they walk. Beautiful! Low crime, not many perverts..they are all in MT. I love the fact that the prop. taxes are low, no income tax, and yes, you need to take care of yourself..the American way. Granted, the weather isn't a cakewalk, but there are few places where it is perfect. So, cowboy up and get tough. The University is fantastic..good kids, a few marxist teachers running around..but you you just have to laugh at the dopey thoughts..need to cleanse the University of the few secular progressives though..the "we know what is best for all crowd" but they are from the East not from Wyoming. But, for the most part a good group of faculty. Wyoming is great, it needs to Stay the way it is!!!

Better watch out, you're making Wyoming sound fabulous! Being responsible for myself...getting back to the values that America was supposed to be founded on...all good stuff.

I think that Wyoming's government is bigger than South Dakota's (admittedly my study of the situation is limited). I'd have to look through my data to find where that piece of info came from, I guess. It might have been the percentage of people employed by the government.

South Dakota's weather looks more extreme than Wyoming's though, which makes Wyoming more attractive to me.

Somebody from Las Vegas claiming that Wyoming is dull is the biggest selling point yet! I loathe Las Vegas.

I don't want to live where there are hoardes of people, horrible traffic jams, overpriced housing, waste of valuable resources like electricity and water. I don't want to live where there is high crime and where criminals have more rights than their victims. I don't need to follow the latest fashions or shop (I'd rather read a good book). I do want peace, quiet, open spaces and fairly cool summers.

Wyoming is one of the 3 states I'm currently considering, along with Oregon and South Dakota. There are lots of things to admire about Wyoming but I'm sure its not everyone's cup of tea. Just depends on what you need in a place to live.

[jazzlover]

Originally Posted by Artful-Thang

Better watch out, you're making Wyoming sound fabulous! Being responsible for myself...getting back to the values that America was supposed to be founded on...all good stuff.

I think that Wyoming's government is bigger than South Dakota's (admittedly my study of the situation is limited). I'd have to look through my data to find where that piece of info came from, I guess. It might have been the percentage of people employed by the government.

South Dakota's weather looks more extreme than Wyoming's though, which makes Wyoming more attractive to me.

Somebody from Las Vegas claiming that Wyoming is dull is the biggest selling point yet! I loathe Las Vegas.

I don't want to live where there are hoardes of people, horrible traffic jams, overpriced housing, waste of valuable resources like electricity and water. I don't want to live where there is high crime and where criminals have more rights than their victims. I don't need to follow the latest fashions or shop (I'd rather read a good book). I do want peace, quiet, open spaces and fairly cool summers.

Wyoming is one of the 3 states I'm currently considering, along with Oregon and South Dakota. There are lots of things to admire about Wyoming but I'm sure its not everyone's cup of tea. Just depends on what you need in a place to live.

It also depends on where you live in Wyoming. Rock Springs and Gillette behave like the typical boom towns that they are. They aren't exactly crime-free. Jackson is home to the rich "beautiful people," most of them from out-of-state and a lot of them not full-time residents--everybody living in hideously overpriced real estate. A lot of Wyoming has a climate probably less extreme than some areas of South Dakota--depending on one's definition of extreme. Some of Wyoming is truly beautiful, some of it--even for those used to the West--is downright desolate. It's also true that government is the major employer in much of Wyoming. Often the biggest single employer in many Wyoming counties is the public schools or the county hospital. Because so much of Wyoming is public lands, a lot of Wyomingites work for the Forest Service, BLM, or Park Service.

Wyoming is a great place, but it definitely is an acquired taste. People generally either like it or they don't. Absolutely visit the state before you make a move. The reality of the place is often much different than the perception, especially if you are from someplace quite different. I loved my time in Wyoming, but I'm a native of the Rocky Mountain region. Wyoming held no surprises when I moved there.

[GLS]

Originally Posted by Las Vegas_Moneyman

I am resident of Las Vegas, NV and am doing research on people moving from Wyoming to Las Vegas, NV. I have interviewed dozens of people. Thus far, my data indicates that many people from Wyoming are quite dull, they do not quite fit in a large metropolis of many cultures, and their choice of fashion is out-dated. Many persons from Wyoming who leave the state claim that Wyoming is a very boring state.

My ex-wife has chosen to live in Las Vegas.............that should succinctly and eloquently refute your delusions of superiority re: Las Vegas vs Wyoming.

[ElkHunter]

Metropolis. We ain't got one of them. Checked, we don't need one either. We almost had one, but we stamped it out.

[awoods2]

Originally Posted by longjohn5864

Also what is the closest town with a mall (for me)??

From Gillette it is only about 1 and a half to two hours to Rapid City, SD. Rapid has a good mall and plenty of other shoping.
Adam

[kasouders]

Could anyone pls tell me what it is like in Wyoming? Is it a place for my daughter 10 yrs old, loves horses and wants to live on a ranch or by some. Are the people friendly? Are the winters bad? What is summer like? And the jobs, my husband works for a boom lift buisness? But will try something else. Thank you ks

[ElkHunter]

Originally Posted by kasouders

Could anyone pls tell me what it is like in Wyoming? Is it a place for my daughter 10 yrs old, loves horses and wants to live on a ranch or by some. Are the people friendly? Are the winters bad? What is summer like? And the jobs, my husband works for a boom lift buisness? But will try something else. Thank you ks

Wyoming is probably the most wonderful place you could ever experience. But shhhhhhhh. Please don't tell no one.

Raise a daughter, here???? I should have one of my 5 daughters answer that. But as a parent, it was fantastic. I didn't worry about them getting into trouble, I didn't worry about them being out late, because I knew they were having good clean fun.

Wyoming is all about ranches and horses.

Yes, the winters can be bad. But like I tell people. It's 70 degrees in my home, it's 70 degrees in my office, and I saved up my money and bought a vehicle that has a heater. So the cold is only while I shovel the walk, or walk to and from my vehicle to the store. Small price to pay. There's maybe 2 days a year that the weather is bad enough to shut down the school. But it can blow and be cold. But it's kind of nice to see it snowing (like this morning) and watch a deer walk through my yard.

Summers are pretty much like anywhere in the country. We can see 100 degrees. But usually chilly nights that you'll need a sweater. But summers are short so if your into growing things, buy plants that are already rooted so that your ahead of the game. tomatoes, peppers and things do well. Other things that take time, like corn on the cob, are kind of special if they make it.

Boom business? He would do well here. We always welcome good mechanics. We have a shortage. I'm not saying their so hard up they'll pay to move you, but if you move, he'll find work pretty quickly.

There's plenty of work for the willing. The only real problem we have is we have more jobs then houses. Housing is a real problem. but we're trying to catch up. Here in sheridan, right now, I can drive around town and find 200 homes being built. And their already sold before their done. So housing is a problem, but it's a problem that can be overcome.

Hope I answered your questions. Please, ask away. It's the only way you'll find out about this beautiful country. but again, shhhhhh. Don't tell no one.

[RockyMtnr]

Originally Posted by Las Vegas_Moneyman

I am resident of Las Vegas, NV and am doing research on people moving from Wyoming to Las Vegas, NV. I have interviewed dozens of people. Thus far, my data indicates that many people from Wyoming are quite dull, they do not quite fit in a large metropolis of many cultures, and their choice of fashion is out-dated. Many persons from Wyoming who leave the state claim that Wyoming is a very boring state.

I'm seeing quite a bit of tongue-in-cheek argument, outright disagreement and also some "Thank God, You're Right" comments. I think this deserves a little more exposure.
Yes, Wyoming is boring - a real lack of bowling alleys, pro baseball teams, semi-pro baseball teams ... a real lack of teams of any kind! There are the high-school teams and UW - and UW can beat BYU AND Utah on any given day ... launching the state into maniacal celebration.
Wyoming is boring in the same way that the Dakotas are boring, that Montana is boring, that Kansas is boring, and Nebraska and Iowa with the exception that Iowa and Kansas can "go farming" for several months of the year. It is not boring in the same way that Idaho and Utah are boring - they are boring by choice.
There are plenty of people who have fashion sense in Wyoming: They know which belt-loop on their jeans is best for resting the knife-sheath ... and you simply must be wearing a knife in Wyoming - number 1 tool in the state and you may need it any hour of any day for anything under the sun. Pair of pliars and wire-cutters in the truck as well, along with a length of chain, a huge block of wood, a few gallons of gas and probably, a chain-saw.
I moved to Wyoming with fashion-sense. Look, there's Jackson - a chance to wear your latest ski-parka. If it's not snowing, you're lost. Those 3-pc Wool suits I moved into the state with? They cut up into really neat patches for a nice, heavy, homemade quilt. Those silk-shirts? Great pillowcases and the horses also like them under their saddle-blankets. The $30 ties made great hat-bands with a little fur sewn onto them. The fancy shoes got donated to Utah.
Even in Vegas, it's "Blue-Jean Central". Don't know what you're seeing but the only folks dressed up in Nevada are either show-folks or airline-folks. Now, on the up-and-downside, I left Wyoming and went out into America, looking to get back to some stylish clothing - only to find that in America, style is gone. GONE! Used to be some great places to shop out there in America. Now, in place of all those international stores - are Macy's and Kohl's. Same...Same...Same...Same... America has become a place where you can potentially find unique ways to express your bad taste in clothing ... because if you've got good taste in clothing, you don't have the clothes to match unless they're from the 1970's!
So, yeah, not everybody rides horseback but the flannel-shirt and levi-jacket does well in almost any setting, including campfires. The goat-skin gloves just work out a little better than the cow-hide. True, Cowboy hats no longer do what they were designed to do (that is, flop-down any direction to protect your head and ears from the cold wind) because folks like Resistol and Stetson decided to "block" them - put them into permanent shapes - so all they are now is a hood-ornament for your head - so, we've had to adapt to wool-caps and ear-muffs and the like ... which is okay ... today, just like before, we mostly only wear those cowboy-hats to go to the Saturday-Night Meat-Market in town or to the concert at the fair. Oh, we'll wear a Panama any day - and I prefer a Fedora - but they both go tumbling over the horizon in the wind too so, better with the ball-cap or the dew-rag. See? Wyominganians can adjust just fine!
Now, a previous poster indicated that we don't have any Metropolitan areas. I so totally disagree (sorry ElkHunter). We have Denver! That's metro, isn't it? And we didn't even have to put it in Wyoming - so, it only messes up Colorado. Also, we have Salt Lake City! ... Okay, it's not metropolitan and never will be (don't believe the brochure) ... but it's close - and we put it down there in Utah, where it's already messed up! That's just how things are done in Wyoming - and Montana folks are even smarter! They put Wyoming between themselves and the Metro areas - as a buffer!
Boring? Hey, we've got satellite radio now! yeeHaw