A New subdivision is coming to Soldier Creek (Sheridan, Cody: house, landscaping)

[WyoMama]

Heck - you can BUY Jeffry City - believe is STILL for sale - the whole town. LOL!!!

I DEFINITELY believe strongly in zoning & annoyance management such as reporting & cleaning up eyesores.

[ElkHunter]

That's exactly the point. THere are already ordinances in effect for areas so a lot of the things on a Cov are redundant. We should be concerned about enforcing the current laws, not adding our own little mini laws that really have no teeth.

[WyoMama]

Amen!!!!!!!!

[Fly Fisher]

I heard about this web site and I was poking around when I found this post about Soldier Creek. I must say I found it very interesting and I have read through all of the post. There are some very insightful comments and observations for sure. It is informative to get different observations on this subject from different parts of the country outside the Sheridan area.

The reason I find all of the post so interesting is that I am actually buying one of the tracts out at Soldier Creek. After reading all the comments, I sat down and re-read the CC & R’s I was given. I also called my Realtor and I spoke with the developers as well.

The first thing I would like to do is clear up a couple of totally inaccurate statements in regards to Soldier Creek.

ARTICLE XVII
PROHIBITED USE
Hunting: No hunting by the general public shall be allowed on any Tract.
Firearms: Development of any area for the purpose of firearms target practice.

That comes straight form the CC & R’s for Soldier Creek. A resident of Soldier Creek can certainly shoot any varmint he sees fit as long as it does not violate any game laws. I am purchasing one of the larger tracts and I fully intend to shoot any Prairie Dogs that dig in my horse coral or any porcupine that tries to chew up my trees. I also fully intend to harvest a deer or antelope each year if the opportunity arises, on my property. I am sure my neighbors will do the same.

To my knowledge, there are not any Grizzly Bears in the Sheridan area. So I really do not know how that got into the conversation or the reference to a wildlife walkway They must have been referring to some other community, because no one I spoke to knew anything about that. Now that the wolf has finally been de-listed in Wyoming, I am sure any wolf that decides to try and make an easy meal of livestock in or around Sheridan will not find a very hospitable welcome.

As far as covenants go, several of the posting hit the nail on the head. They are in place to maintain an aesthetically pleasing community that does not allow a junkyard as landscaping. I intend to build a modest 2,000 sqft home with a barn and storage building. When my place is finished, I will have invested a considerable amount of money and a tremendous amount of time. The last thing I want to do is have one bad apple spoil the community for me and my neighbors. I am certainly not worried that if my ranch truck has a dead battery for 2 weeks sitting in my driveway that someone is going to ask me to get a tow truck and move it. That is a far cry from a junk car sitting on the side of my house completely overgrown with weeds. I know we have all seen that. Commonsense rules for commonsense folks are pretty easy to live with.

One additional comment on the burning of trash, which was another of the great observations brought up. In my conversations with the developer I brought that up and we discussed it. He agreed that the burning of trash restriction should be removed. So the CC & R will me ammended to remove that restriction.

[WyoMama]

Originally Posted by Fly Fisher

I heard about this web site and I was poking around when I found this post about Soldier Creek. I must say I found it very interesting and I have read through all of the post. There are some very insightful comments and observations for sure. It is informative to get different observations on this subject from different parts of the country outside the Sheridan area.

The reason I find all of the post so interesting is that I am actually buying one of the tracts out at Soldier Creek. After reading all the comments, I sat down and re-read the CC & R’s I was given. I also called my Realtor and I spoke with the developers as well.

The first thing I would like to do is clear up a couple of totally inaccurate statements in regards to Soldier Creek.

ARTICLE XVII
PROHIBITED USE
Hunting: No hunting by the general public shall be allowed on any Tract.
Firearms: Development of any area for the purpose of firearms target practice.

That comes straight form the CC & R’s for Soldier Creek. A resident of Soldier Creek can certainly shoot any varmint he sees fit as long as it does not violate any game laws. I am purchasing one of the larger tracts and I fully intend to shoot any Prairie Dogs that dig in my horse coral or any porcupine that tries to chew up my trees. I also fully intend to harvest a deer or antelope each year if the opportunity arises, on my property. I am sure my neighbors will do the same.

To my knowledge, there are not any Grizzly Bears in the Sheridan area. So I really do not know how that got into the conversation or the reference to a wildlife walkway They must have been referring to some other community, because no one I spoke to knew anything about that. Now that the wolf has finally been de-listed in Wyoming, I am sure any wolf that decides to try and make an easy meal of livestock in or around Sheridan will not find a very hospitable welcome.

As far as covenants go, several of the posting hit the nail on the head. They are in place to maintain an aesthetically pleasing community that does not allow a junkyard as landscaping. I intend to build a modest 2,000 sqft home with a barn and storage building. When my place is finished, I will have invested a considerable amount of money and a tremendous amount of time. The last thing I want to do is have one bad apple spoil the community for me and my neighbors. I am certainly not worried that if my ranch truck has a dead battery for 2 weeks sitting in my driveway that someone is going to ask me to get a tow truck and move it. That is a far cry from a junk car sitting on the side of my house completely overgrown with weeds. I know we have all seen that. Commonsense rules for commonsense folks are pretty easy to live with.

One additional comment on the burning of trash, which was another of the great observations brought up. In my conversations with the developer I brought that up and we discussed it. He agreed that the burning of trash restriction should be removed. So the CC & R will me ammended to remove that restriction.

perhaps you may want to go back & re-read where I was speaking of grizz & walk-ways thru a gated community. Perhaps you didn't read it as carefully as you thought. I was referring to a new gated community in CODY area (Wapiti valley) that is prime winter habitat for elk mostly & the impact we are expecting from that. We fought it tooth & nail but unfortunately the ranchers selling the land to the Fla. developer are in kahoots together as private citizens even tried to get together to purchase the land to protect it and the price suddenly went up several hundred thousand & the minimum amt we could purchase was several hundred more acres (the price per acre rose significantly). So, that is where the walkway & grizz came into the conversation. We were comparing our personal experiences with C&R's and what we have observed through association. No, there are not grizz in Sheridan or anywhere near there. And not sure there are many wolves that way either. They are mostly in the western big horn basin & on west & south from there, more in the western half of the state. Also, as far as the wolves go, they were re-introduced to the state & you have ALWAYS been able to shoot wolves if they destroy any of your livestock or property including your pets. The de-listing was the grizzley bear. Wyo is still trying to develop a wolf mgmt plan acceptable to the USFS (or whomever - think is USFS). Our plans have so far been outside what they consider acceptable. At least they are finally being honest & admitting that they are wreaking havoc on the young calves & fawns of the wildlife herds & are a serious menace in many areas already. Just thought I'd clear up the de-listing vs. wolf management comment.

[Kristynwy]

Originally Posted by Fly Fisher

I heard about this web site and I was poking around when I found this post about Soldier Creek. I must say I found it very interesting and I have read through all of the post. There are some very insightful comments and observations for sure. It is informative to get different observations on this subject from different parts of the country outside the Sheridan area.

The reason I find all of the post so interesting is that I am actually buying one of the tracts out at Soldier Creek. After reading all the comments, I sat down and re-read the CC & R’s I was given. I also called my Realtor and I spoke with the developers as well.

The first thing I would like to do is clear up a couple of totally inaccurate statements in regards to Soldier Creek.

ARTICLE XVII
PROHIBITED USE
Hunting: No hunting by the general public shall be allowed on any Tract.
Firearms: Development of any area for the purpose of firearms target practice.

That comes straight form the CC & R’s for Soldier Creek. A resident of Soldier Creek can certainly shoot any varmint he sees fit as long as it does not violate any game laws. I am purchasing one of the larger tracts and I fully intend to shoot any Prairie Dogs that dig in my horse coral or any porcupine that tries to chew up my trees. I also fully intend to harvest a deer or antelope each year if the opportunity arises, on my property. I am sure my neighbors will do the same.

To my knowledge, there are not any Grizzly Bears in the Sheridan area. So I really do not know how that got into the conversation or the reference to a wildlife walkway They must have been referring to some other community, because no one I spoke to knew anything about that. Now that the wolf has finally been de-listed in Wyoming, I am sure any wolf that decides to try and make an easy meal of livestock in or around Sheridan will not find a very hospitable welcome.

As far as covenants go, several of the posting hit the nail on the head. They are in place to maintain an aesthetically pleasing community that does not allow a junkyard as landscaping. I intend to build a modest 2,000 sqft home with a barn and storage building. When my place is finished, I will have invested a considerable amount of money and a tremendous amount of time. The last thing I want to do is have one bad apple spoil the community for me and my neighbors. I am certainly not worried that if my ranch truck has a dead battery for 2 weeks sitting in my driveway that someone is going to ask me to get a tow truck and move it. That is a far cry from a junk car sitting on the side of my house completely overgrown with weeds. I know we have all seen that. Commonsense rules for commonsense folks are pretty easy to live with.

One additional comment on the burning of trash, which was another of the great observations brought up. In my conversations with the developer I brought that up and we discussed it. He agreed that the burning of trash restriction should be removed. So the CC & R will me ammended to remove that restriction.

I think that is great you got the developer to reverse burning trash to being ok.

As far as the specifics of the covenants. I have a copy in my hand that I picked up myself, I rent a place right down the road. So if I am incorrect on the "specifics" pardon my interpretation. I am not buying a piece of land there, and I read the entire handout with all the covenants.

As far as firearms, the developer should be a lot more specific in the hand out, the firearm rules were very vague and could lead a person to believe that any kind of shooting is prohibited.
I am happy they at least allow the land owner to shot varmints.

However I agree with Elkhunter... This whole covenant business is redundant. There are already laws that cover a lot of these areas. Out in the county, I am not sure about, the laws may be mostly in the city limits.

I came from the Land Use Zoning Law capital of the Nation, I mean that literally... aka Oregon. All it takes is a group of people that say, hmm we can make more money if we regulate this or that, hmm we can make every landowner at the state's mercy for anything and everything.
These covenants start out as so called protection, and when given to the wrong person it becomes all about city/state revenue and power trips... It has totally ruined Oregon.

My inlaws finally are giving up and selling their 49 acres in Oregon. They had to hire a biologist, a lawyer and pay 15,000 dollars just to get permission to build on their own land! That mind you had a pre-existing dwelling on it at one time, there are even pictures of it in the archives, and this is for the town's so called "protection". It has gotten out of control. If a neighbor doesn't want you to live next door to them or doesn't like the layout of your home, they can sue you and protest against it! I have even seen it happens in the city of Portland when I lived in Oregon.

I love Wyoming and am proud to call it my home and I don't want it to be destroyed to the point of no return like Oregon's zoning has become.

As far as the "Wildlife pathway" that is a totally different subdivision in Cody as Wyomama mentioned.
The sad thing is Money is what talked in that situation.


Another thing, what if a person who wants to buy a piece of land out there, (that isn't cheap by the way as I am sure you know) can only afford a 1,200 sq. foot home because of their finances are being eaten up by land costs? and then what if they some day want to add on an addition to the home....
can't do that according to the covenants. Forcing people to buy a home no less that 1,600 sq. feet to me is singling out the kind of buyer for the property and purposely pushing out those than can't build bigger homes, kind of discriminatory in a way... That is just one of the many examples...

I respect those that disagree with me at the same time, we are all entitled to our opinions and what we want to buy or don't want to buy land wise.

I personally think of buying into a subdivision like that as buying property with strings attached like a "ball and chain".

[WyoMama]

Kristynwy, VERY WELL SAID!!! And I can tell you if I purchased land out of city limits - I don't CARE where - I better be able to target practice as that is a serious right of ours in Wyo that most of us take very seriously. Some of these C&Rs, in the guise of keeping things at a certain level of aethetics, tromp all over your constitutional rights. ESP if the community is out of town. I have to believe that anybody who would buy into that sort of community is being bamboozled & wants somebody else to make all the rules & enforce them so they don't have to be bothered with going face to face with your neighbor to work out any differences. That ability to work things out with your neighbors has been a very special thing about Wyo & these sorts of communities sort of strip that action from taking place, from my point of view. You can just show up at some meeting with a copy of te "rules" & point fingers so a commitee or group of ppl do what we have always taken care of on our own. I don't know cause I can't even start to understand why anybody would buy into these sorts of communities - is out of my realm of even a concept to me

[dictionary]

I think it's a very easy answer again, don't buy there. And at 350K and up, with those convenants what they don't want people to do is to buy land, then not be able to build something and just plop a yucky trailer on it.

Not everyone can afford to live in Beverly Hills right? So really, not everyone should or can be able to afford to live in 350K lots etc.

And county/city convenants aren't enforced, at least not in Sheridan. Again, I personally like covenants, and if I buy with covenants and someone in my neighborhood blatantly ignores them, that's just rude.

I don't care what their rationalization is, if there are covenants and you buy to ignore them, then that person to me is just rude and doesn't think about the others.

Again. I might just get a t-shirt that says "I love covenants."

[ElkHunter]

When I think of covenants, I think of only one thing. That's my land. Not our land. If you want it to be our land, you need to make some of the payments. And if you do, then I'll listen to what we can do and can't do, on Our land.

But for now. It's my land. I paid for it. It is my castle. Stay away.

[ladysmanrob]

Yeah my parents live on soldier creek road. It is very nice palce up their in sheridan. The college is also very nice. The land/houses are going for 5000 an acre and 490000 for house.