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10-27-2008, 10:35 PM
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Common sense is one of the greatest weapons...and instilling that into our offspring is the epitome of teaching them. All too often, common sense is absent.
I've taken self-defense courses, and most perps, as wyoquilter states, do not want a scene. You can bet I or my son will give a hell of a scene. Elbows are stronger than fists...hit, jab, etc with elbows. Car keys are great weapons as well.
Restraining orders are nothing more than pieces of paper, imo. They provide a false sense of security at best. Granted, it will get names into the system, but not much else.
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10-28-2008, 09:04 AM
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Common sense is one of the greatest weapons...and instilling that into our offspring is the epitome of teaching them. All too often, common sense is absent.
I've taken self-defense courses, and most perps, as wyoquilter states, do not want a scene. You can bet I or my son will give a hell of a scene. Elbows are stronger than fists...hit, jab, etc with elbows. Car keys are great weapons as well.
Restraining orders are nothing more than pieces of paper, imo. They provide a false sense of security at best. Granted, it will get names into the system, but not much else.
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Restraining orders get people arrested, multiple times, this is experience talking. Restraining orders are a great way to legally harass sex molesters who live in your neighborhood.
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10-28-2008, 09:43 AM
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I am thrilled that R.O.'s worked well for you, Benny...and just as experience is talking for yourself, experience is talking for me. Both instances of utilizing R.O.'s were for naught...I will not go into details, but one was for a sexual predator. And both instances were in Wyoming. This is merely my opinion, based on my experience...but I trust in my ability to never be a victim well over a scrap of paper.
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10-28-2008, 09:51 PM
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What really makes me sick about sexual predators, is that they CANNOT be rehabilitated. They are turned back out into society with a slap on the wrist and told to control their urges. Some places make them have a sign (or a pumpkin) in their yard that warns children to stay away....but that's only when they comply.
I'm taking a very interesting upper division college elective right now for criminal justice called "Deviant Behavior".....learning about some of these behaviors (from sexual deviance, to murder, to corporate corruption) really makes one stop and think.
But as stated above (and by me previously as well), it all comes down to us as parents teaching our children and KNOWING where they are. Just giving a teen (or tween) a cell phone and letting 'em loose at the mall is NOT being a parent (nor is it responsible). And as mentioned above...the way girls dress these days is dispicable....my daugters won't be caught dead in some of this trash that is being sold as "clothes". Of course, they see their friends wearing it and want to buy it....but I am firm on what they are allowed to wear. (Unfortunately, it seems there are a lot of sodomistic sexual predators out there who are targeting our boys).....
What it comes down to is not living your life in fear. It gets us no where. Be responsible parents and teach our children to be responsible citizens growing up.
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I agree with you-being from an old school generation-I - we have been through a lot of different changes-as a man-and a juvenile-I loved the short shorts-the mini skirts-the freedom of expression-like you said  What you wear does not make you bad-the kids may become more of a target if they don't fit in-an stand out like a sore thumb?  Just my opinion 
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10-29-2008, 08:52 AM
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I am thrilled that R.O.'s worked well for you, Benny...and just as experience is talking for yourself, experience is talking for me. Both instances of utilizing R.O.'s were for naught...I will not go into details, but one was for a sexual predator. And both instances were in Wyoming. This is merely my opinion, based on my experience...but I trust in my ability to never be a victim well over a scrap of paper.
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You miss the point of the RO. It is not a piece of paper, it is a judges order that if violated will put the offender in jail. It is one part of many things that everybody should employ.
When you have an on-probation sex offender who violates an RO he goes back to prison in most states.
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10-29-2008, 09:42 AM
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I do know what the R.O. is and have utilized them twice. I was stating the 'scrap of paper' in a figurative sense. Both times the R.O. was violated - and that is the thing....the person it is filed against still has to violate it in order for it to have an effect. In other words, it didn't prove to be a bit of a deterrent to keep them at bay. The first one was on the run for a week until LO caught up to him and I had to still contend with threats and the like until then. The second one - a different person - did not mean anything. It was filed, and the 'powers that be' deemed it a source of derision and it was never enforced. Yes, that DOES happen.
My point: Aside from my own personal experience, I've known others who felt that once they had filed a restraining order, they were utterly protected under it without taking any other precaution or responsibility in insuring that they or their family were safe. Common sense, being aware, self-protection are key....
My apologies to the OP...I am finished in my part of derailing this thread 
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10-29-2008, 11:39 AM
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... I've known others who felt that once they had filed a restraining order, they were utterly protected under it without taking any other precaution or responsibility in insuring that they or their family were safe. Common sense, being aware, self-protection are key....
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This is the biggest problem I have noticed over the years. Any one receiving a RO has to brake the law before anything will be done to them. It is usually too late for the victim once they do.
A friend looked up Rawlins for sex offenders and became very worried about my living here. There is a prison - they count the number locked up.
There are sex offenders every where - in every state. There are people who will rob you and any number of other crimes. You personally have to learn to protect yourself. You have to teach your children how to be aware and how to protect themselves. Every woman should take a self defense class. I would like to see self defense taught in middle school.
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10-29-2008, 12:10 PM
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Why just sex offenders? Wouldn't you also want to know if a murderer, or drug peddler lived next door? When is a sex offenders sentence "served"? Murder, robbery and drugs destroy families and lives too, why don't you issue RO's to "harrass" (I think that was the term I read) them as well?
Parental responibility plays an enormous part in keeping children safe; from screening who you leave your children with, to knowing who they're hanging around with. Bad things will always happen, but a keen parent can prevent most of it.
Most of the states I've live in have histories of sex offenders on the State police websites. IMO there's a significant difference between an 18yo having consensual sex with a 16yo, and a 50yo molesting kids. Both are registered sex offenders...
Nice tag HL 
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10-29-2008, 12:14 PM
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Wow, this is a pandemic! They are like a disease in Cheyenne!!!
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10-29-2008, 01:23 PM
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Unbelievable. I searched the registry for Cheyenne. Approximately 1 out of 250 Cheyenne residents is a sex offender. Nearly all of them committed acts with minors, many with minors under 14. Anybody who does something to someone under 14 needs to be imprisoned for life, no parole. What the heck is wrong with politicians that they do not create laws that imprison these scum for life. And I am not talking about the 18 year old boy who has consensual sex with his 17 year old girlfriend, I talking about those other freaks. The politicians should be ashamed of themselves.
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