Sex Offenders (crime, felony, lawyer)

[At1WithNature]

Originally Posted by BennyPhoenix

Unbelievable. I searched the registry for Cheyenne. Approximately 1 out of 250 Cheyenne residents is a sex offender. Nearly all of them committed acts with minors, many with minors under 14. Anybody who does something to someone under 14 needs to be imprisoned for life, no parole. What the heck is wrong with politicians that they do not create laws that imprison these scum for life. And I am not talking about the 18 year old boy who has consensual sex with his 17 year old girlfriend, I talking about those other freaks. The politicians should be ashamed of themselves.

Exactly! i do feel bad though for some of those 18 year old boys who get arrested because their 17 year old girlfriend's parents found out they were having sex.

[BennyPhoenix]

Originally Posted by At1WithNature

Exactly! i do feel bad though for some of those 18 year old boys who get arrested because their 17 year old girlfriend's parents found out they were having sex.

If that law were truly enforced then over half of the 18 year old boys in the US would be in prison. This is where good judges are important.

[At1WithNature]

Originally Posted by BennyPhoenix

If that law were truly enforced then over half of the 18 year old boys in the US would be in prison. This is where good judges are important.

so true, i'll give you rep in 24 hours (i'm out right now).

[tekape]

Originally Posted by BennyPhoenix

Unbelievable. I searched the registry for Cheyenne. Approximately 1 out of 250 Cheyenne residents is a sex offender. Nearly all of them committed acts with minors, many with minors under 14. Anybody who does something to someone under 14 needs to be imprisoned for life, no parole. What the heck is wrong with politicians that they do not create laws that imprison these scum for life. And I am not talking about the 18 year old boy who has consensual sex with his 17 year old girlfriend, I talking about those other freaks. The politicians should be ashamed of themselves.

We as a society should be ashamed of ourselves....we continue to allow "those politicians" to serve us and we sit back and do nothing....we need to be more proactive and less reactive.

And posting to an earlier discussion regarding ROs.....they are "just a piece of paper"....most times they ARE violated. Most times, it makes the person the restraint is on pissed off and aggravates them to the point of escalating the poor behaviors. Yes, it "gets them on the record"....but when you serve a RO on a wife beater and he goes back to his wife to exact revenge....the piece of paper does absolutely no good....by the time the cops show up....she's probably already dead.

[Owen08]

Originally Posted by Hinton Bound

Why just sex offenders? Wouldn't you also want to know if a murderer, or drug peddler lived next door? When is a sex offenders sentence "served"? Murder, robbery and drugs destroy families and lives too, why don't you issue RO's to "harrass" (I think that was the term I read) them as well?

Parental responibility plays an enormous part in keeping children safe; from screening who you leave your children with, to knowing who they're hanging around with. Bad things will always happen, but a keen parent can prevent most of it.

Most of the states I've live in have histories of sex offenders on the State police websites. IMO there's a significant difference between an 18yo having consensual sex with a 16yo, and a 50yo molesting kids. Both are registered sex offenders...

Nice tag HL

if i had to pick i would pick to live by the junkie
anyday then live by sex offenders i can help drug dealers we no what is wrong with them its the drugs!! and there are really good ppl that are hook on drugs its sad

[MrBeefy]

The easiest way to understand the sex offender problem in WY is to look at it from a population standpoint. The rate of incidence is relatively constant nationwide, x per 1000. Because WY has such a small population, we have, statistically, the highest per capita rate of sexual offenders. It's a skewed number. There are no more sex offenders here than anywhere else - they're just "artificially concentrated."

It's important to remember that most of the sex offenders are on the list for relatively minor acts. Many have been convicted of "immoral or indecent acts with a minor." This means "statutory rape." A 19 year-old having sex with a 17 year-old is hardly child molestation. It's technically illegal, but not necessarily a malim in se crime.

The main ones you need to watch for are the chi-mo's. They cannot be "fixed," except by high velocity lead poisoning or a short fall from a high tree. They are the main recidivists. The only other serious threats are the violent rapists. Violent criminals tend to commit more crimes than other types of criminals.

The bottom line is that they are not a high threat risk. If they bother you - a quick call to the PD will have them removed from the area. If they actually try to hurt one of your kids, the use of deadly force is legal under Wyoming law to prevent serious bodily harm to yourself or another. Ass raping a child would definitely be considered serious bodily harm.

As for all the self-defense chat and such, the best thing to tell your kids is that should someone try to take them to pee and crap themselves while screaming. In fact, for grown women, the best defense against rape is pee and poop. Then, should the opportunity arise, draw your legally concealed pistol and send them to hell with a hollowpoint. Of course, the BEST defense is to maintain situational awareness at all times. It matters little what gun you have, how strong your pepper spray is, or how many black belts you have if you get surprised by an attacker and smacked on the head with a stick.

[tekape]

Originally Posted by MrBeefy

The easiest way to understand the sex offender problem in WY is to look at it from a population standpoint. The rate of incidence is relatively constant nationwide, x per 1000. Because WY has such a small population, we have, statistically, the highest per capita rate of sexual offenders. It's a skewed number. There are no more sex offenders here than anywhere else - they're just "artificially concentrated."

It's important to remember that most of the sex offenders are on the list for relatively minor acts. Many have been convicted of "immoral or indecent acts with a minor." This means "statutory rape." A 19 year-old having sex with a 17 year-old is hardly child molestation. It's technically illegal, but not necessarily a malim in se crime.

The main ones you need to watch for are the chi-mo's. They cannot be "fixed," except by high velocity lead poisoning or a short fall from a high tree. They are the main recidivists. The only other serious threats are the violent rapists. Violent criminals tend to commit more crimes than other types of criminals.

The bottom line is that they are not a high threat risk. If they bother you - a quick call to the PD will have them removed from the area. If they actually try to hurt one of your kids, the use of deadly force is legal under Wyoming law to prevent serious bodily harm to yourself or another. Ass raping a child would definitely be considered serious bodily harm.

As for all the self-defense chat and such, the best thing to tell your kids is that should someone try to take them to pee and crap themselves while screaming. In fact, for grown women, the best defense against rape is pee and poop. Then, should the opportunity arise, draw your legally concealed pistol and send them to hell with a hollowpoint. Of course, the BEST defense is to maintain situational awareness at all times. It matters little what gun you have, how strong your pepper spray is, or how many black belts you have if you get surprised by an attacker and smacked on the head with a stick.

THAT is probably one of the best reads I've had in a long time! Thanks Mr Beefy for making me smile!

[ilmd]

Just saw your post - we have a town of 5,000, with 13 sex offenders listed. I was pretty shocked to see that one of them worked at the local hardware store!
As BennyPhoenix said, the drug dealers are a problem also. Park county had a higher incidence of drugs than other towns- I don't know if it is still true or not. We had a murder in 1998- a child was raped and killed. The offender was sent for life in a short time.
We are not immune here to bad things, unfortunately.
Hope you find a decent town to move to.

[Calisippi]

Originally Posted by MrBeefy

The easiest way to understand the sex offender problem in WY is to look at it from a population standpoint. The rate of incidence is relatively constant nationwide, x per 1000. Because WY has such a small population, we have, statistically, the highest per capita rate of sexual offenders. It's a skewed number. There are no more sex offenders here than anywhere else - they're just "artificially concentrated."

1. The above quote is incorrect. Population size has nothing to do with concentration or "per capa" xxxx per 10000 means the same in WY as it does in NY or CA.

2. A 18 year old having sex with a 17 year old does not have to register as a sex offender. All states have "by-laws" taking that into consideration. I looked it up for WY and would state it, but it wouldn't be believed. (Yeah Yeah there is always that exception...but usually there are migitating factors)

3. Actually the reason (My opionion) WY has a higher concetration of Sex offenders is speaks highly of the state. WY prosecuters has less tolerance for offenders and are more williing to prosecute then other states. Meaning while most states will plea bargin for lesser charges WY will procecute the actual infraction.

I believe if other states did as good job as WY in prosecuting Sex Crimes you would see their number rise.

[BennyPhoenix]

Originally Posted by Calisippi

1. The above quote is incorrect. Population size has nothing to do with concentration or "per capa" xxxx per 10000 means the same in WY as it does in NY or CA.

2. A 18 year old having sex with a 17 year old does not have to register as a sex offender. All states have "by-laws" taking that into consideration. I looked it up for WY and would state it, but it wouldn't be believed. (Yeah Yeah there is always that exception...but usually there are migitating factors)

3. Actually the reason (My opionion) WY has a higher concetration of Sex offenders is speaks highly of the state. WY prosecuters has less tolerance for offenders and are more williing to prosecute then other states. Meaning while most states will plea bargin for lesser charges WY will procecute the actual infraction.

I believe if other states did as good job as WY in prosecuting Sex Crimes you would see their number rise.

The problem is twofold:
1. The penalties are not stiff enough. I say life imprisonment with ZERO chance for parole for most, if not all, of these scum.
2. Sex offenders should not be allowed to live within 10 miles of a school, park, day care center, or any other place children congregate. Make life miserable for them so they leave or commit suicide.