Sex Offenders

[MrBeefy]

Originally Posted by Calisippi

1. The above quote is incorrect. Population size has nothing to do with concentration or "per capa" xxxx per 10000 means the same in WY as it does in NY or CA.

You are right! I got it twisted. Thanks for the correction.

[ktljfausa]

Everyone seems so high and mighty. What happened to paying your dues to society and getting to start over. Not with a brand your whole life. There are many convicted people that are not problems. I for one had a vindictive girlfriend that said I touched her in public, my attorney told me I need to plead to a sexual felony to avoind being fired. Well I did, still got fired and have not held a decent job in the past 16 years. So during a divorce with my second wife she has turned me into the police wanting me to be registered as a sex offendor even though I have never been required to in my life. Do not judge everyone under one fell swoop

[wyoquilter]

Originally Posted by ktljfausa

Everyone seems so high and mighty. What happened to paying your dues to society and getting to start over. Not with a brand your whole life. There are many convicted people that are not problems. I for one had a vindictive girlfriend that said I touched her in public, my attorney told me I need to plead to a sexual felony to avoind being fired. Well I did, still got fired and have not held a decent job in the past 16 years. So during a divorce with my second wife she has turned me into the police wanting me to be registered as a sex offendor even though I have never been required to in my life. Do not judge everyone under one fell swoop

Sadly there are a few who are wrongly accused. That pi**es me off more than anything when someone wrongly accuses someone of such a horrible act. By doing so it only makes it harder for those who have truely been victimized.

On the same token though, most people who are accused and charged with a sex crime are guilty and most, like child molesters, are hardly rehabilitable. They need to be locked away in a cold, dark, dank place and the key should be thrown away.

As far as your case goes. I'm sorry you plead guilty to a crime you supposedly didn't commit. You must have had one suckish lawyer to recommend you do so. If the act you were accused of was done in puplic, surely someone could have been found to testify on your behalf or at the very least deny her accusation.

I'm sorry if you were wrongly accused and it has made your life hard. But as hard as your life has been, think about how hard it is for the victims of sexual crimes. Most never fully get over the trama. When it happens to a young child, it changes who that child could have been. Some could have been doctors that found cures for cancers and other diseases, but because they have been tramatized they do not go that route.

I have witnessed first hand the effects of child molestation. It's sad to think that, that person now lives in constant fear, shame, and turmoill and is not free from the trama to live their life how they should have.

So if I seem High and Mighty about how I feel about the scum that commits these horrible acts, it's only because I have seen the effects of what they have done. To me they are worse than murderers as they still killed their victims souls leaving the person to live with what was done to them for the rest of their lives. At least a murderer dosen't leave their victims to live with what was done to them.

[BennyPhoenix]

Originally Posted by ktljfausa

Everyone seems so high and mighty. What happened to paying your dues to society and getting to start over. Not with a brand your whole life. There are many convicted people that are not problems. I for one had a vindictive girlfriend that said I touched her in public, my attorney told me I need to plead to a sexual felony to avoind being fired. Well I did, still got fired and have not held a decent job in the past 16 years. So during a divorce with my second wife she has turned me into the police wanting me to be registered as a sex offendor even though I have never been required to in my life. Do not judge everyone under one fell swoop

I am not high and mighty. You are obviously innocent, if what you say is true. It is the guilty sex criminals I have the problem with, not those falsely accused and convicted.

[CowgirlUp2008]

Originally Posted by ktljfausa

Everyone seems so high and mighty. What happened to paying your dues to society and getting to start over. Not with a brand your whole life. There are many convicted people that are not problems. I for one had a vindictive girlfriend that said I touched her in public, my attorney told me I need to plead to a sexual felony to avoind being fired. Well I did, still got fired and have not held a decent job in the past 16 years. So during a divorce with my second wife she has turned me into the police wanting me to be registered as a sex offendor even though I have never been required to in my life. Do not judge everyone under one fell swoop

Everyone claims to be innocent. What makes you any different? Not trying to be confrontational, but why should anyone just take your word for it?

The reality is that if you were innocent, your attorney never would have told you to plead guilty, he would have fought it. There must have been a ton of evidence against you for him to believe it was better to plead guilty than to fight for an innocent person.

If you are now required to be a registered sex offender, I find it really hard to believe that you were not required to do so for the last 16 years. They do not just arbitrarily make that change 16 years later.

[tekape]

to add to this thread in the last few posts....this thread is about sexual predators, not someone who had sex with their high school girlfriend who happened to be under age when you were 20 (or whatever "innocent" story is being told). Obviously, there are wrongful convictions and grey areas. But when people are worried about their children because there's a registered sex offender next door who happened to rape/sodomize children 20 years ago....they have every right to be "high and mighty". It has been shown that pedophiles cannot be rehabilitated....

I understand there are always circumstances that people get "screwed" by the law (no pun intended), but pedophilia is NOT one of them.

[Kristynwy]

Let's try to keep this thread more about "Wyoming".

ktljfausa, I am sorry to hear about you being wrongfully convicted.

What it boils down to is all of us each deserve a chance to be judged as individuals, we haven't walked a mile in each other's shoes. So we can't always know the full story. So it is always important to be open minded.

However there are also some sex predators out there that are very dangerous.

That being said, let's try to stay on the original topic of "sex offenders" in Wyoming... thanks

[WhatULookinAt]

Originally Posted by ktljfausa

I for one had a vindictive girlfriend that said I touched her in public...

Originally Posted by CowgirlUp2008

If you are now required to be a registered sex offender, I find it really hard to believe that you were not required to do so for the last 16 years. They do not just arbitrarily make that change 16 years later.

That's not always the case. It will always vary with the crime but it is really up to the judge whether to have you register or not. not the public, state, DA, or the victim/victim's family. in his case however i see it as his girlfriend having a witness for HER side because there would be no physical evidence of forcible touching(class A misdemeanor in NY) or of any sexual assault. these days there are attorneys out there that are just f***in lazy and don't want to work to win a case(i.e. public defenders). anyways anybody that says anything like "we should lock them all up in a cold, dark, dank room and throw away the key" is just being ignorant. let's says musicians, just an example, were looked upon with the same disgust as sex offenders, would you say the same thing? why not? they can corrupt a child's mind to where they can go join a gang, or shoot somebody. would you do the same thing to them if that were the case???

[WhatULookinAt]

Originally Posted by Kristynwy

What it boils down to is all of us each deserve a chance to be judged as individuals, we haven't walked a mile in each other's shoes. So we can't always know the full story. So it is always important to be open minded.

Well said kristynwy, i agree with you 100%

[lefteyedom]

People come to Wyoming to start over and escape their past. This was true 100 years ago and it is true now. Wyoming has had a plenty of no question asked work, low paying put work. Combined these facts and it not surprising the number of out of state sex offenders that live here.
While the out of state sex offender are a real issue we sadly have way too many home grown sex offenders.

While it is good to have a sex offender register list the problem is the lack of information about the crime they where convicted of. A 1986 statutory rape convection could be a 56 year old man and a 13 year old girl or it could be a 19 year old male and a his 17 year old girlfriend. There should be a difference. Without the facts of the conviction the public must believe the worse.

The states need to come up with standardizes terms for sex crimes. What one state calls third degree rape, another state may call unlawful contact, or indecent acts. Was this a date rape? A orderly touch someone in a nursing home? or a flasher? Not that any of these act are OK but it would good to know the real facts.