want to move where we are welcome (lenders, hotel)

[wyoman]

Originally Posted by jesnlar

My family and I are currently looking to relocate to a place where we are welcome. Right now we live in (I hate to say it) Northern California. This used to be a beautiful place full of good ole boys who hunted on the weekends and worked at the mill or in the woods on the week days. My Stepfather has been a timberfaller for 25 years and GOD bless him for it! Well unfortunatly the bay area (San FranFREAKSHOW) has been slowly taking over the last bit of beauty of Northern California. All of us Republican Christian families find ourselves being pushed out. If you even wear a camo hat passed Chico people glare! Now imagine this...we are a Christian hunting homeschooling hardworking family. How we have survived this long I don't know. We NEED out!! We can picture ourselves in a place like Wyoming but we know what people think of Californians. Can't say I blame you. But rest usured that is not us. So 4 seasons is what we want. And when I say 4 seasons I mean winters that it snows so hard you can't see your street and so cold your nose hairs freeze. I love the cold winter days when the temp reads below 5 and but the wind chill is below 0. We love the beautiful fall days that follow a warm (not blazing hot) summer. We are lovers of the outdoors (and I don't mean treehuggers). My husband loves to hunt all big game as well as fish. We eat wild game year round. Our kids are begging to get there hunting permits and we are supporters of the NRA, CWA, and attend and contribute to the RMEF every year. I am not trying to brag by any means all I want is people to see is we are not like normal Californians. I just want to find a place wear it is small enough to know your neighbor but big enough to have steady work (of any kind). Thank you to whoever reads this and helps a family find a welcoming place to live. GOD bless you all!!

Last info that I have is we don't do border checks here in ole wyo Good people settled this country-fought for it- and kept it free-come on you will be welcome here -an you can freeze your nose hairs on a good horse back ride-an hunt-fish-till you drop dead-just like a lot of us wanna do-an after you have looked up at our an your's beautiful star filled sky- you will have seen heaven on earth COME AN ENJOY

[tekape]

Originally Posted by jesnlar

What are some recreation lakes in Wyoming? And what areas get the most amount of snow and the least amount? Is the Rock Springs an area anyone would recommend? We are pretty much a 2-3 hour drive to any big city so isolation doesn't really bother us. Just trying to get a feel for the weather and things to do. Thanks again to all!!

Alcova Lake is about 30 minutes west of Casper. Pathfinder Res. is also about 45 minutes (but you take dirt roads to get there).....or to the east is Glendo Resevoir. The North Platte River runs right through town and offers good fishing and kayaking/floating (we have a kayak park in the middle of town). My husband goes up to the Middle Fork (about 2 hours northwest of here) for hunting/fishing/camping...

we home school our four children as well....you'll find the laws are supportive of homeschooling here. All you'd have to do is send a letter every year to the school district stating your childrens' names, dates of birth, and what you plan to teach them. No tests are required by the state or school districts.

I was born an out-of-stater myself, and grew up in a VERY small town (less than 1000) here in Wyoming. It is inviting as long as you don't push your values/thoughts on "native" born.....but come to think of it, I think the majority is now from out-of-state.

Casper has a TON to offer (especially when homeschooling). THere's museums galore (art, science, veterans, geological, etc). The library is excellent too (a little small, but our kids love it). And close enough to the outdoors to not feel like your living in the city. You should check it out!

Plus there's tons of jobs available here.

[tekape]

Originally Posted by jesnlar

And to top it all off my husband is a small business owner and CA does not like small business. The amount of taxes we have to fork out montly is insane all because we work hard. My whole point (about being a Christian, Republican, and hardworking) was this a combination of things in CA that a lot of people don't like. You can be a Christian and Democrat of course...but thats more accepted. And as far as hardworking goes...the harder you work and the more money you TRY to make in CA the more taxes you pay. Its like it punishes you for working hard. .

A Wyoming Democrat is NOT your typical democrat. We are a very republican state but elected a democratic governer.....I don't think that some democrats here realize that when they vote for a democratic president...that east and west coast democrats are VERY liberal and are all about spreading the wealth of the people's money (not their own of course). THat's what's wrong with California....VERY democratic thinking....how's that working out??? It's NOT! Socialized government/medicine/healthcare does NOT work......boy this country is in for a HUGE surprise if the Mr. B. Hussein Obama gets elected!

What you state about taxes is exactly what's wrong with voting Democratic in today's society...it truly DOES punish the hardworking. No one here in Wyoming cares what party you are because here it isn't liberal vs conservative.....it is truly the basis of parties. The same is not true in the rest of America...it's liberal vs conservative. More people need to get out of this state and realize how liberalism is ruining this country, not helping it.

BTW my husband is also a small business owner as well (gun shop).....which we expect to lose in the next six months if we get a democratic president.

[wyoquilter]

Originally Posted by tekape

A Wyoming Democrat is NOT your typical democrat. We are a very republican state but elected a democratic governer.....I don't think that some democrats here realize that when they vote for a democratic president...that east and west coast democrats are VERY liberal and are all about spreading the wealth of the people's money (not their own of course). THat's what's wrong with California....VERY democratic thinking....how's that working out??? It's NOT! Socialized government/medicine/healthcare does NOT work......boy this country is in for a HUGE surprise if the Mr. B. Hussein Obama gets elected!

What you state about taxes is exactly what's wrong with voting Democratic in today's society...it truly DOES punish the hardworking. No one here in Wyoming cares what party you are because here it isn't liberal vs conservative.....it is truly the basis of parties. The same is not true in the rest of America...it's liberal vs conservative. More people need to get out of this state and realize how liberalism is ruining this country, not helping it.

BTW my husband is also a small business owner as well (gun shop).....which we expect to lose in the next six months if we get a democratic president.

I know I may get slammed here, but I am one of those Wyoming Democrats you are talking about. True I am not as liberal as some in other states, but I think your statements about having a Democratic President is way off base. The last time we had a Democratic President, small businesses flurished but now most of those small business have gone under and we had a surplus and not in the hole. People who recieved social security got more raises in thier income than they have under the current president. The highest income increase my grandmother has recieved in the last 8 years has been 3% which gets eaten up by higher medicare costs. Under President Clinton the lowest she recieved was 5%.

Also the gun control issues basically started under a Republican President as it was a Republican Bill. If my memory serves me right the Brady Bill was started by Brady after he was shot during an assination attempt of a Republican president.

Now I myself am not to thrilled with Obama as to me he is too Liberal, but not in the areas you think he is. But I would much rather not have McCain and that twitt Palen in the White House either. That man is completely insane and she is just completely stupid.

[kiotes]

moved to Rapid City SD

[wyolady]

Thank you, dictionary. I am a Wyomingite, through and through, hardworking, Christian, and not a republican.

Originally Posted by dictionary

You know one CAN be Christian, hardworking and not be a republican? I know "novel thought huh?" You'd like Wyoming I'm sure but try to be tolerant of anyone different than you, you certainly didn't like it when you lived in San Fran now did you?

[GEORGIAINMT]

Originally Posted by wyolady

Thank you, dictionary. I am a Wyomingite, through and through, hardworking, Christian, and not a republican.

Same with me. I'm also a Christian Democrat born, raised & living in Wyoming.

[Clay Lady]

Originally Posted by wyoquilter

I know I may get slammed here, but I am one of those Wyoming Democrats you are talking about. True I am not as liberal as some in other states, but I think your statements about having a Democratic President is way off base. The last time we had a Democratic President, small businesses flurished but now most of those small business have gone under and we had a surplus and not in the hole. People who recieved social security got more raises in thier income than they have under the current president. The highest income increase my grandmother has recieved in the last 8 years has been 3% which gets eaten up by higher medicare costs. Under President Clinton the lowest she recieved was 5%.

Also the gun control issues basically started under a Republican President as it was a Republican Bill. If my memory serves me right the Brady Bill was started by Brady after he was shot during an assination attempt of a Republican president.

Now I myself am not to thrilled with Obama as to me he is too Liberal, but not in the areas you think he is. But I would much rather not have McCain and that twitt Palen in the White House either. That man is completely insane and she is just completely stupid.

You are right. I think it is important we look with more understanding eyes. Those of us in the "middle" are more the same than not.

[tekape]

Originally Posted by wyoquilter

I know I may get slammed here, but I am one of those Wyoming Democrats you are talking about. True I am not as liberal as some in other states, but I think your statements about having a Democratic President is way off base. The last time we had a Democratic President, small businesses flurished but now most of those small business have gone under and we had a surplus and not in the hole. People who recieved social security got more raises in thier income than they have under the current president. The highest income increase my grandmother has recieved in the last 8 years has been 3% which gets eaten up by higher medicare costs. Under President Clinton the lowest she recieved was 5%.

Also the gun control issues basically started under a Republican President as it was a Republican Bill. If my memory serves me right the Brady Bill was started by Brady after he was shot during an assination attempt of a Republican president.

Now I myself am not to thrilled with Obama as to me he is too Liberal, but not in the areas you think he is. But I would much rather not have McCain and that twitt Palen in the White House either. That man is completely insane and she is just completely stupid.

My point was that here, in Wyoming, people don't vote party lines....we vote the issues. I find it interesting that I never called Obama any names, but McCain was called "insane" and Palin, "stupid".

and the reason we're expecting to lose our small business (gun shop) is because Obama is FOR taking guns away from us and FOR increasing ammunition costs by 500%. Believe it or not, it isn't that easy to just go out and get a gun. My husband doesn't sell to just everybody....and he abides by ATF rules/regs and notifies them when someone tries to purchase more than one handgun within a 7 day period. The people killing people aren't getting their guns legally....but Mr. Obama would like to disarm the law-abiding citizen.

And I never stated I was against a Democratic president. I'm all for the RIGHT person in the office, regardless of political party (I'm one who voted Freudenthal into office as a registered Republican). It has nothing to do with Obama's party or his race (though those of us against him are being called racist). I am against his views, his record of voting...and the fact that he thumbed his nose at the FEDERAL government lawsuit brought against him to PROVE he is, indeed, a US citizen. He has not provided the documentation. He is wrong for America. His change is not the change we need. (now, if you want to slam Mccain and Palin, please use VALID talking points, not "insanity" and "stupidness").

[BennyPhoenix]

Originally Posted by tekape

My point was that here, in Wyoming, people don't vote party lines....we vote the issues. I find it interesting that I never called Obama any names, but McCain was called "insane" and Palin, "stupid".

and the reason we're expecting to lose our small business (gun shop) is because Obama is FOR taking guns away from us and FOR increasing ammunition costs by 500%. Believe it or not, it isn't that easy to just go out and get a gun. My husband doesn't sell to just everybody....and he abides by ATF rules/regs and notifies them when someone tries to purchase more than one handgun within a 7 day period. The people killing people aren't getting their guns legally....but Mr. Obama would like to disarm the law-abiding citizen.

And I never stated I was against a Democratic president. I'm all for the RIGHT person in the office, regardless of political party (I'm one who voted Freudenthal into office as a registered Republican). It has nothing to do with Obama's party or his race (though those of us against him are being called racist). I am against his views, his record of voting...and the fact that he thumbed his nose at the FEDERAL government lawsuit brought against him to PROVE he is, indeed, a US citizen. He has not provided the documentation. He is wrong for America. His change is not the change we need. (now, if you want to slam Mccain and Palin, please use VALID talking points, not "insanity" and "stupidness").

I cant agree more.
I live in the middle of a left wing indoctrination camp(Los Angeles). The hatred that I hear and see everyday against McCain and Palin is amazing. WHen someone hears that I am voting for McCain they look at me like I am stupid or crazy, they cant believe that anyone who is educated wont vote for obama. I am voting for McCain only because the dems I see are dangerous and Mentally ill. We cannot have these people getting more power. You folks in Wyoming have normal dems, you have no clue to what the average dem in California is like. And there are like 7,000,000 dems here.

On another comment; I know plenty of democrats who are hard working, they aren't all lazy. I have a friend who is a leftist and he is one of the hardest working people I know.