Varmint shooting in Central Wyoming (Cheyenne, Winchester: co-op, costs, moving to)

[.204]

In my last post I forgot to add:

Price of a gallon of gas to dump off a cat = $3.00-- Price of a Winchester Modle 52 with a leupold scope = $900.00,-- Price of a .22 shell $0.03,
The look on the persons face when they open up the package containng their dead animal---Priceless.

Now that's education worth spending money on!

Just a joke folks.

[happyappy]

Sunsprit,

I'm a man if you haven't found that out already.

In one of my posts to which you refer, I stated that there are cat rescue operations in Wyoming so your comments about the lack of same specifically in Cheyenne are not applicable. I’ll make a few calls to gather some information and post it—if you’re interested.

I don’t know what it is you’re reading, but I didn’t condemn you for doing anything. Once again, as in several previous posts, I mentioned the fault of humans who have created the messes that now have to be cleaned up. Good for you that you kill what you think must be killed in your area. But that wasn’t the point of my post—any of them, actually. I’m going to mention the lack of responsibility of humans any time I get an opportunity if the subject being discussed is directly related to irresponsibility in humans. I do this hoping to raise awareness and hope it does some good.

This thread is a very unpleasant thread and it was put out to the public. It’s a disturbing subject to most people. It cannot be discussed in a public forum without stirring up some very emotional responses.

I had no idea you live in Cheyenne. Maybe it was posted somewhere is some discussion and I missed it.

As to your warning about moving to Cheyenne, well . . . I don’t plan on living in Cheyenne anyway, but if I did I’m not worried about being accepted or rejected for my views on anything. Cheyenne, from what I’ve heard and read, is not some backwards city that punishes people for differing opinions—or for not answering your question to your satisfaction. In fact, from what I’ve learned about Wyoming in general is that free thinking, non-sheeple, liberty-minded types are prevalent among the citizenry, and the Bill of Rights is not negotiable. These things have drawn me to it for some years now.

I enjoy active discussions, I really do; I’ll jump into the middle of just about anything that’s interesting to me. And I have this perverse streak that enjoys controversial subject matter, the more controversial the more I seem to draw from it.

But this thread gives me a whole different feeling that I cannot quite describe with accuracy. Whenever I come away from it I’m angry, disgusted, disappointed, disheartened . . . Anyway, if you’re interested in information about feral cat issues, PM me or e-mail me.

Respectfully,

Happyappy

[happyappy]

Originally Posted by .204

Happyappy,
I'm not against animal rescue organizations. Some are really good ones. I'm for anything of this nature if it gives their donors a warm and fuzzy feeling. But I think in this instance that's all it does, besides give someone a job. I really don't think proper pet care education will have any real impact on irresponsible people. People aren't stupid; they know they should not be dumping their pets off onto someone else or in the wild. With all the advertising about neutering I find it hard to accept that they don't know it's is an option and the responsible thing to do. They just don't want to fork out the $$ to get it done. I don't think responsible people being encouraged to pay for the problem will ever cure it. Just another example of the responsibble paying for the irresponsible.

To bad all pets aren't chipped or tattooed. That way when their killed the animal could be mailed back to it's owner along with a note telling them to do the responsible thing and bury their pet. That might go even further in preventing the problem. It would definitely educate them in what happened to their cat when they dumped it off. Maybe that's the point behind the offensive web-site the previous poster referred to. Maybe it's an attempt to get others to control their pets.

I know. I know, I'm an opinionated person. I did not realize how opinionated I really was until I got into this forum.

Quite obviously, these rescue organizations do lots of good, maybe not in your area or in Wyoming in general, I can't speak for that. If contributions are only given to assist in actions that have a guarantee of wiping out a problem, then there wouldn't be so many contributions and America would be much worse for it. Better contributions than taxes if it can be done.

It's good that you're an opinionated person; I like that and you may have noticed that I lean in that direction myself. However, I hope you'll understand that your opinions on this subject are diametric to many others' opinions and that this is probably as controversial a subject as there is. It doesn't have the importance to America as immigration does, for example, but it nonetheless is of great importance to a great many people.

[Earniefan]

It’s a disturbing subject to most people.

Happyappy - If you want to say we're just having a difference of opinion on this matter, then don't try to say that the majority has a problem with the subject matter.

[happyappy]

Originally Posted by Earniefan

Happyappy - If you want to say we're just having a difference of opinion on this matter, then don't try to say that the majority has a problem with the subject matter.

I can't find where I said those words, but it doesn't matter. In my last post I did say this: "It doesn't have the importance to America as immigration does, for example, but it nonetheless is of great importance to a great many people." I was speaking of a great many people in America, of course. And it is.

I have no idea how many people are reading this particular thread, so I have no idea what would constitute a "majority" as you stated. In any case, I continue to, and will always, believe that the problems with overpopulations of WHATEVER are the result of irresponsible humans or actions taken that were ill-advised to begin with--by humans.

You do what you do because you either want to do it or have to do it. It's not the point of my posts.

[ElkHunter]

This forum is not to discuse
Foreign Military help.
It's not to dicuse foreign military trade.
It's not to dicuse how the French would denyy everything.
It's not to dicuse anything other then shooting some praire dogs.

If you don't like it. Fine, log onto another thread and raise hell. But here, we are discussing a methond of taking care of a problem we have. Just move your ass along. Leave us alone. We are discussing what we want to discuse.

[happyappy]

Originally Posted by jgussler

This forum is not to discuse
Foreign Military help.
It's not to dicuse foreign military trade.
It's not to dicuse how the French would denyy everything.
It's not to dicuse anything other then shooting some praire dogs.

If you don't like it. Fine, log onto another thread and raise hell. But here, we are discussing a methond of taking care of a problem we have. Just move your ass along. Leave us alone. We are discussing what we want to discuse.

That's not the way public forums work. You could probably get me banned, but there's no need to bother.

[sunsprit]

happy yappy ... it's a shame you cannot recall what you've written in response to others in earlier posts.

to now deny that you knew (or could know) that I live in the Cheyenne area when you specifically acknowledged my working with the Cheyenne animal shelter in an earlier response tells me you simply don't have the capacity to keep a train of thought going.

IMO, it's a passive aggressive pattern on your part. Challenge me to use facilities which you assert are in my area ... if I'd just take the time and energy to locate them on the internet ... and then when I can confirm that those alleged facilities do not exist ... then you now assert that it's of no import, anyway.

I have no theat intended or implied to you here ever, sir. My comment about your reconsidering moving to Cheyenne was in reference to Bullsh_t behavior ... folks out here are very open minded and will respect you for what you are. Treat them with Bullsh_t and you'll get the respect you rate.

In general, "feel good" emotional responses to real problems that real people face here on a daily basis won't get the type of enthusiastic support and response here that you might garner in other places in the country, especially if they're non-solutions to the problem.

Hey, .204 ... where can I get a 52 in .22 caliber and a good scope for only $900? The last time I saw a 52C with no sights on it was in Cabela's gun library for $1,800.00.

[mark6052]

It does my heart good to read of others that enjoy popping afew p-dogs. and cats too! the fun days I have spent shooting them with the grand kids I used to get a good bounty for some dogs (real dogs)when they would chase the sheep. alot of what I have shot, cats&dogs have been from idiots dropping them off in the "country" by my barn. hmmm... I think they eat them in korea, now if I could export them
Something not discussed, whats your favorite caliber to shoot them? longdistance I use a 25-06. the kids use my .222

[catman]

Originally Posted by happyappy

...But this thread gives me a whole different feeling that I cannot quite describe with accuracy. Whenever I come away from it I’m angry, disgusted, disappointed, disheartened . . . Anyway, if you’re interested in information about feral cat issues, PM me or e-mail me.

I agree with you, as you might surmise from my screen name. That being said, I don't feel qualified to judge the situation, having never been in Wyoming. I don't think I could shoot a cat. But perhaps it's no less humane than having one euthanized if one is a good shot. I just couldn't do it; I like cats too much.

I sincerely hope there is a better way to deal with the problem, other than spaying and neutering, which any decent person would do IMO if they don't want kittens and more cats.