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Old 05-07-2010, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Spots Wyoming
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If this starts in Sheridan County, it won't be long before other counties do the same thing.
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Three hours into a four-hour meeting Wednesday night, the Sheridan County Planning Commission held a public hearing regarding a resolution of Sheridan County's intent to amend building standards pertaining to county-wide building code enforcement and electrical inspection as condition of procuring a permit.

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Old 05-07-2010, 05:50 PM
 
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[quote=ElkHunter;14077890]If this starts in Sheridan County, it won't be long before other counties do the same thing.
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Waaaaay behind the curve, EH. There's Wyoming counties that have already adopted the latest building codes ....

We've had county wide building code enforcement/permits/fees/inspections for years here now in Laramie County. After they passed the requirements, the county realized they didn't have the staff or budget to do the process, so they subcontracted it to Cheyenne ... who ran the code enforcement department for the county at a profit to the city, as opposed to a municipal service. With second rate service for the premium price charges, because the city inspections came first.
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Old 05-07-2010, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Spots Wyoming
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Waaaaay behind the curve, EH. There's Wyoming counties that have already adopted the latest building codes ....

We've had county wide building code enforcement/permits/fees/inspections for years here now in Laramie County. After they passed the requirements, the county realized they didn't have the staff or budget to do the process, so they subcontracted it to Cheyenne ... who ran the code enforcement department for the county at a profit to the city, as opposed to a municipal service. With second rate service for the premium price charges, because the city inspections came first.
That's going to be a problem here. NOT ENOUGH STAFF. Plus, they've been told to cut back on expenses and looks like they're going to have layoffs. So I think this is a typical ploy for job security, or "Don't cut my department."

I did know that some counties did. But this is going out into the county with city regs. Wasn't sure the other counties did that.

When I had my building business we had to get county permits, and turn in blueprints and were told "We can inspect you at any time". Many buildings build and never an inspection. With this new stuff, they'll have to inspect in stages or you can't continue.
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Old 05-07-2010, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Spots Wyoming
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Forgot to mention. We used to have the "Comprehensive Planning Zone" in the county. That was an imaginary area around the city, that they expected the city to grow in that direction within the next 10 years.

That area had to meet the same code as city and was inspected just like the city. But beyond that, was normal county.

The problem we have going is sub divisions that are springing up. But they are 4 or 5 miles out of town (or further). They are looking for that revenue.

One of the sub divisions is reviewing all the adgenda to incorporate and become their own town. It is about 90 homes with a golf course. All homes are on 10+ acres. And, it's a gated community. So they already pay for the streets, street lights, road maintenance, etc. But they are lacking things like Fire Department and such. It's called "Powder Horn".
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Old 05-07-2010, 07:35 PM
 
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Default Joint city/county planning in Sheridan County

EH,
The imaginary area around the city of Sheridan goes south as far as the Y and no farther. The city had no intention of stepping on anyones toes that doesnt want to live in town, including the community of Big Horn and the Powder Horn.
The idea behind the joint planning program is so that when areas in the county get annexed to the city, the streets, gutters sidewalks et cetera will be built to spec.
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Old 05-07-2010, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Spots Wyoming
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EH,
The imaginary area around the city of Sheridan goes south as far as the Y and no farther. The city had no intention of stepping on anyones toes that doesnt want to live in town, including the community of Big Horn and the Powder Horn.
The idea behind the joint planning program is so that when areas in the county get annexed to the city, the streets, gutters sidewalks et cetera will be built to spec.
That's what I meant by the Comprehensive Planning Zone. An area that would soon be city had to meet city code so it would be ready.

I wonder what the people in the Powder Horn paid for building fees as compared to what they would after this passes? What about the new Sub Division going on out Soldier Creek?

I believe, the city and county is looking at the revinue they are loosing with all the building. I could be wrong. But something has sparked this idea.
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Old 05-07-2010, 10:15 PM
 
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EH, I believe what you're seeing on growth/planning/zoning is similar to the visions of the powers that be in Cheyenne ... who aggressively planned on anexations to expand the property tax base of the city.

Even though some of the annexations were fought by the county folk, and several have been determined to have been illegal, Cheyenne has persisted in expanding into the county areas. Even by flagpole annexations, in some cases without "contiguous" boundaries or adjacent boundaries ... county folk have found themselves subject to bringing their roads/water systems up to City standards.

What's driving this is the grand schemes of the City planners ... who have greatly overextended Cheyenne's obligations and facilities. They cannot raise the rates for water, for example, to unrealistic price points, so they seek to expand the number of people forced to sign up for city water and sewer services. Gotta' pay for the water treatment plant and the waste water plant imperial staff and monuments somehow ... and it's even more critical now that the City of Cheyenne is in the midst of defaulting upon an annual $1mil "contribution" to the Public Utilities dept.

We've seen historical subdivisions along the path of the city expansion to a flagpole annexation required to upgrade roads/curbs/gutters/sewer system ... the developer of the new subdivision paid for the water/sewer service to their properties, but the folk along the way were required to join in, too. For some, the cost to hook-up to municipal utilities has been in excess of $50K ... which wouldn't have been required if they hadn't been in the path of the annexation expansion. The direct costs of conforming curbs and gutters are passed on to the frontage properties, as well as the costs of paving the roads to the level of city acceptance. When you're looking at a few dollars a lineal foot for a mile of road frontage just for the curb, it can be quite the tax burden to a homeowner who was perfectly happy with the old graveled county road ... and the city does send out a bill for the improvements. Several property owners have been forced to sell their places because they couldn't pay the tax burden ... and some of them found that their properties were essentially worthless because the tax bill for the road was more than the market value of their place.

Cheyenne is so aggressive about their expansion plans that they've even filed for annexations of subdivisions on the West side of the air force base ... properties totally removed from the city. Of course, this means they've got to now provide city schools, police, fire, and emergency services. With the increased tax base, that's an expansion of all these departments.

IMO, the county residents need to be equally aggressive about fighting the city expansion and domination plans ... if they don't want to be part of the city for services and taxes in exchange for the lower levels of services that they enjoy in the county. Otherwise, the older properties in the county will find themselves forced to pay for municipal services ... which is what's happening here in Laramie county around Cheyenne. Cheyenne has also been a master at using Federal clean water/EPA enforcement to force people out of using septic systems (due to a federal drainage chart); folk in the area of the fed zone cannot modify or repair a septic system if it fails in any way, they can only abandon the septic system and sign up for municipal sewer ... which then also requires that the service address receive municipal water. Or you can do without a means of waste water disposal on site ... one independent fellow fighting Cheyenne has done so ... with composting toilet and hauling away his gray water. But that's pretty extreme and you won't find too many people capable of doing so and being able to sell their house when a time comes to do so.
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