ON (C-D Post): 9/11--I Kind of Wish We WOULD Forget, Too Much Security/Paranoia
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Originally Posted by shyguylh
I am probably the only one who feels this way and of course many will think this post tasteless, but it's nonetheless how I feel.
To an extent, I think we should forget 9/11.
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To me, THAT is life should be, and it is such a refreshing change from what I otherwise see--people flipping out if their kids play outside in their own yard for more than 5 seconds without constant supervision, people requiring you to practically have a background check just to pick up your kids from school or daycare, people screaming "pervert!" at you
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I hate it, all of it, and I think people's post-9/11 paranoia, and their acceptance of all of this "security theater," is due to 9/11 and the need to remember, beyond the understandable need to remember the victims and heroes, all of which I understand.?
To an extent, I think we should forget 9/11.
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To me, THAT is life should be, and it is such a refreshing change from what I otherwise see--people flipping out if their kids play outside in their own yard for more than 5 seconds without constant supervision, people requiring you to practically have a background check just to pick up your kids from school or daycare, people screaming "pervert!" at you
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I hate it, all of it, and I think people's post-9/11 paranoia, and their acceptance of all of this "security theater," is due to 9/11 and the need to remember, beyond the understandable need to remember the victims and heroes, all of which I understand.?
To OP's comments: this kind of seriously-disturbed, delusional thinking bothers me greatly, considering the uncomfortable realities we as Americans will need to face, and have-been-facing, since before 9/11.
To the above, I say: You have every right to "feel" whatever you'd like, and to express it within the bounds of your 1st Amendment rights. At the heart of many Americans is a longing for what we might call "frontier values" or "down-home thinking". The good parts, not the bad (bad including clannishness and ignorance).
Likewise, however, "emotionally" I found the thread's comments not so much distasteful as "non-reflective of reality." But I'll debate that like a civilized human being. The enemies of this great republic, in contrast, are not rational, civilized human beings. They are evil monsters, pirates, and barbarians.
Failing to confront barbarians, diplomatically and then (only if necessary) militarily does not make them "go away." Once militarily engaged, they must be exterminated w/o exception. To current events:
The great Cold Warrior and post WW II U.S. statesman Dean Acheson (Sec. State, 1949-1953) understood the nature of what this republic faced, many years ago and in a different world order. Though not a verbatim quote...only that of an actor playing Acheson during a 1962 EXCOMM meeting as-recreated in a 2001 movie...I am reasonably certain this was the way he felt and acted, based on both his actions and writings while in and out of office:
"Gentlemen, for the last fifteen years, I've fought at this table alongside your predecessors in the struggle against the Soviet. Now I do not wish to seem melodramatic, but I do wish to impress upon you a lesson I learned with bitter tears and great sacrifice. The Soviet understands only one language: action. Respects only one word: force."
Consider the recent actions of Vladimir Putin. Is he not acting in the "classic" Soviet fashion, in the matters of Ukraine, Georgia, etc.? Thus, for the USA, reacting with tough diplomacy, backed by credible use of force, is (as-always) the ONLY thing barbarians understand. Tough times, tough opponents, means tough actions!
Another set of barbarians chose to take the dispute to our shores in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, the follow-up cataclysmic attacks of 9/11/01, and in other instances since. We have retaliated, though not in a way that has completely crushed the barbarians and annihilated their perverted ideology, unfortunately. I am reasonably certain that comes later, the so-called clash of civilizations our politicians (from Bush II to current) seem so frightened of directly confronting. That will involve nuclear weapons, God willing.
Weak-kneed politicians notwithstanding, we're just getting warmed up. The problem of facing down evil is clearly yet again front-and-center in American politics. How the current Administration chooses to act...not just talk...will prove telling, the next two years.
As a liberty-loving American, I will agree that it is always a fine line between too much and too little homeland security. I think we can, and should, decide that as we go via vigorous debate based on the real and perceived nature of our threats. Internal threats, like Oklahoma City bombing and Sandy Hook domestic mass murder, cannot be easily prevented. They can be mitigated and deterred, to "some degree", but again that's a debate we'll need to tackle nationally as we go.
Overseas, that's easy: watch the Israelis. They mostly focus on destroying infrastructure, and leadership, of the perverse entity running Gaza vs. mass casualties of civilians and non state combatants. A live voter who is greatly inconvenienced, because he is now homeless and jobless due to his government's policies, is worth ten dead ones caught on live video and social media across the world.
The United States will, I suspect, focus very carefully on the selected suppression (= destruction) of barbarians in places like "Syria" and "Iraq," countries in name-only at this point. If they hide in buildings, those building will be reduced. If they melt into the population, life will be made financially unbearable for their hosts until they are finally cast out. Once cast out, they will be exterminated and memories reduced to ashes.
That, in the end, is what it has come to. We will win; evil and barbaric lies can never hold onto ill-gotten gains or defeat the truth.
I, too, wish life were simpler sometimes. It is not; it never is, once humans start to congregate into cities, city-states, baronies, greater states, and nations. Conflicting needs of many lead to various kinds of inter- (and intra-) state greater conflicts.
