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Originally Posted by Dooleys1300
Both of you are suffering under the delusion that government has any buisness making any laws about marriage....gay , straight or otherwise.
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It's amusing that you'd bring up delusion, given that government has been making laws about marriage since before there was a United States. Your delusion to the contrary blinds you to the reality. If you cannot base your comments on the reality around you, please understand that your comments are rendered worthless.
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Originally Posted by momonkey
The proof is the rejection of civil unions that are equal in every way except that they are not called "marriage".
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Putting aside the determination of the highest court in the land, which has determined, definitively, that
separate facilities are inherently unequal, your defense here is that you insist that your petty concerns about semantics should be lorded over society. Honest and intelligent people on both sides of the issue recognize the prodigious time and money that would be required to change over a thousand federal laws and an order of magnitude more state and local laws, in what is probably hundreds of different jurisdictions. It would be ridiculously unwarranted to grant
you power over society to incur pointless cost to serve your semantic persnicketiness. If you want to waste your time and money, that's your affair. Don't presume that society should incur the costs associated with your
petty concerns.
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Originally Posted by momonkey
Anyone opposing civil unions with all the same benefits as marriage?
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Nothing discredits your perspective more than your trying to assert that your selfish desire to incur pointless cost onto society, and force the federal government, all state and territorial governments, and a bevvy of municipal governments, to spend time and money changing thousands of laws to meet your petty demand, when the same effect - the same effect, if your words have any truth to them - can be brought about through a few, relatively efficient, judicial and legislative actions.
Unless, of course, your perspective is devoid of honor and integrity, and instead of meaning what you say, you secretly prefer your approach because you figure that it would be impracticable to change the thousands upon thousands of laws, all over the country, in any reasonable amount of time, and that you really aren't advocating civil unions "equal in every way" to marriage today, but instead just trying to evade accountability for thoroughly offensive perspectives through lying about what you really believe.