[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by ckhthankgod

I wouldn't be surprised if places in NY like Elmont, Valley Stream, North Valley Stream, Baldwin, West Babylon, Westbury and perhaps place like Cheltenham PA, South Orange NJ, etc. are up there as well.

So far I've found Elmont: $120,227: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table...5Y2020.B19113B

Baldwin: $160,174: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table...5Y2020.B19113B
Baldwin Harbor: $163,125: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table...5Y2019.B19113B

Valley Stream: $130,061: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table...5Y2020.B19113B

North Valley Stream: $130,981: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table...5Y2020.B19113B

West Babylon: $109,815: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table...5Y2020.B19113B

Westbury: $181,202: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table...5Y2020.B19113B (is a walkable village with a black population that goes back centuries)

South Orange has old information for the CDP.

For Cheltenham, I found CDP's like Elkins Park: $100,076: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table...5Y2020.B19113B
Wyncote: $195,337: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table...5Y2020.B19113B

So, those are some other examples that came to mind right away. See, now you know I'm going to add more to this list...

Another thing to consider is that you can do this by census tract. An example is of this tract in the outer East Side of Syracuse: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...6-onondaga-ny/ it has a black family income of $127,917(about 20% black):https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table...5Y2020.B19113B So, you can break this down to a smaller level and it can also allow you see areas of cities given a common narrative, that may not be considered otherwise.

Another adjacent census tract in the outer East Side of Syracuse that is 53% black alone(
58% inc. in combo) according to 2020 census information: https://censusreporter.org/profiles/...2-onondaga-ny/ this tract's black family income is $116,250: https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table...5Y2020.B19113B So, again, even the mid sized cities can have areas with a legitimate black middle class presence.

Some street views for both census tracts...

Census Tract 46: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0435...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0281...7i16384!8i8192 (Barry Park to the left, where you can find a very diverse set of people: http://www.syrgov.net/Parks/barryPark.html )

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0361...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0461...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0417...7i16384!8i8192 (Nottingham High to the right: https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000040872
Nottingham High School | The Syracuse City School District | Syracuse, NY )
Back side of school/fields: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0386...7i16384!8i8192 (This Catholic HS is close by as well: https://www.cbasyracuse.org/ and I know some that sent their kids to this other nearby private school: https://www.mphschool.org/ or this one not too far away: https://www.bishopgrimes.org/ , let alone this magnet: https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000040860 and charter school options: https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...d=800000056174 )

A state rep that lives in the tract: https://nyassembly.gov/mem/Pamela-J-Hunter

Public transportation that serves the tract: https://www.centro.org/docs/default-...sn=b88b4c9d_76

Census Tract 36.02: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0493...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0491...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0507...7i16384!8i8192 (Homer Wheaton Park to the right, which has a little League program based there: http://www.syrgov.net/Parks/homerWheatonPark.html , https://www.syracuse.com/sports/2018...tos_video.html )

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0490...7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0479...7i16384!8i8192 (The school to the left: https://data.nysed.gov/enrollment.ph...=800000040886; the library: https://www.onlib.org/locations/city...ranch-library; the plaza, which is tied to this college across the street and is a good place to relax or take in live jazz: https://www.lemoyne.edu/College-Admi...tion/Bookstore, https://www.cnyjazz.org/cny-jazz-lau...moyne-college/ )

Represents the tract at the county level: Onondaga County Legislature

Public transportation that serves the tract: https://www.centro.org/docs/default-...sn=ac8b4c9d_32

Both are also close to big box shopping and activities/gyms on Erie Boulevard East: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0451...7i16384!8i8192

and one of the biggest Wegmans locations in their chain of supermarkets: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0318...7i16384!8i8192 (if you don't want to mess with that one, there's this one not too far away either: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0696...7i16384!8i8192

There are also some black owned businesses on that side of town, as mentioned in another thread.

Nearby major employers besides Syracuse University and Le Moyne College are, Bristol Myers-Squibb: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0619...7i16384!8i8192

Carrier Corporation, which still has R & D facilities: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0865...7i16384!8i8192

Sensis/SAAB, which has 2 facilities: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0538...7i13312!8i6656

TTM Technologies: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0766...7i16384!8i8192

and Inficon: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0868...7i13312!8i6656

among some others...

Also, both are in/largely in a zip code(13224) that is a middle class zip code with one of the highest black percentages in the region outside of the Bos-Wash corridor and has a high educational attainment in general and for its black residents.

So, this may be a sleeper area/option for those looking for a substantial black middle class family presence in the Northeast or within a Northeastern city.

I'll try to do something similar for other mid sized areas in the region or if anyone else knows about similar areas, they can post them as well.