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Old 07-04-2022, 04:46 PM
Tzaphkiel
 
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Originally Posted by The Grandeur View Post
What do you mean it is a christian concept? There is hell and heaven in Islam.
it started with Crstnty. Islam came after.

"In religion and folklore, hell is a location in the afterlife in which evil souls are subjected to punitive suffering, most often through torture, as eternal punishment after death. Religions with a linear divine history often depict hells as eternal destinations, the biggest examples of which are Christianity and Islam, whereas religions with reincarnation usually depict a hell as an intermediary period between incarnations, as is the case in the dharmic religions. "

Crstnty and Islam don't recognize reincarnation, they have eternal punishment.
Buddhism (and other religions) have reincarnation, and no eternal punishment.


"The first real graphic descriptions of hell and its torments come outside of the New Testament canon in the Christian apocryphal texts of the second century C.E. One of the most colorful visions of hell is recorded in the Apocalypse of Peter, which was widely known in Christian circles at the time."

So Crstnty around year 200, Islam around year 600

"The first person to write about “eternal hell” was the Latin North African Tertullian (160–220 CE), who is considered the Father of the Latin Church. The main person responsible for making hell eternal in the Western Church was St. Augustine (354–430 CE), made Bishop of Hippo in North Africa. It is his misunderstanding of Greek that cemented the concept of eternal hell in the Western Church. Augustine not only said that hell was eternal for the wicked, but also for anyone who wasn’t a Christian. Most of what we believe about hell comes from Catholicism and ignorance of the Old Testament, not from the Bible. I [author] now believe that hell is the invention of Roman Catholicism. Early Christian doctrine remained unaffected by Hell until St. Augustine forcibly inserted it into orthodoxy, using a combination of power and violence to ensure it’s survival. Since that time, we’ve seen the gradual evolution of Christian doctrine in and around this concept, until today, the average believer has no idea that the concept of eternal torment isn’t even Biblical."

article "How & When The Idea of Eternal Torment Invaded [Christian] Church Doctrine"

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