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Old 12-30-2012, 11:18 AM
 
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Outrage over Russia's adoption ban...
Where's the outrage over US adoption laws?

The news media loves to point the finger at other countries
Personally, I really don't give a ..... about any law passed in Russia.
But why is it that the news media in the US doesn't point the finger to American adoption system that forces Americans to adopt kids from other countries?
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Old 12-30-2012, 11:33 AM
 
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How are Americans being forced to adopt internationally?
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Old 12-30-2012, 11:35 AM
 
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How are Americans being forced to adopt internationally?
It's a very long and difficult process to adopt in America.

That's why people go overseas. Much easier...
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Old 12-30-2012, 11:40 AM
 
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It's a very long and difficult process to adopt in America.

That's why people go overseas. Much easier...
Ok. Well that is a CHOICE and is not the case where people are being FORCED at all.
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Old 12-30-2012, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Soldotna
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Ok. Well that is a CHOICE and is not the case where people are being FORCED at all.
That is still force. Making it so difficult that one can not adopt in America and therefore have to go elsewhere is for all intents and purposes equates to being forced...

You at arguing semantics but its a false argument.

If you block left and I have to go right you have forced me. You can't say well you didn't have to go right you could stay still.

That's nonsense....
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Old 12-30-2012, 12:16 PM
 
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According to a survey by the US Dept of Health & Human Services, approximately 75% of adoptions are domestic. That doesn't sound like most adoptive parents are being "forced" to adopt internationally.

There are many reasons parents choose to adopt internationally (search this forum for some threads on that subject) but, IMHO, none of them are "forced" to do so.
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Old 12-30-2012, 12:23 PM
 
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Not a thing Easy or EASIER about adopting internationally.
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Old 12-30-2012, 01:25 PM
 
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Not a thing Easy or EASIER about adopting internationally.
Exactly

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Old 12-30-2012, 01:38 PM
 
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So if it's harder to adopt overseas, how is it the case that parents are "forced" to do so (according to you)? I'm confused.
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:08 PM
 
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Outrage over Russia's adoption ban...
Where's the outrage over US adoption laws?

The news media loves to point the finger at other countries
Personally, I really don't give a ..... about any law passed in Russia.
But why is it that the news media in the US doesn't point the finger to American adoption system that forces Americans to adopt kids from other countries?
Perhaps the media and Americans in general are outraged at 800,000 children (a low estimate) living in institutions in Russia? You may not give a .... about them but many of us do. Most of those children would never wind up adopted by an American family, but a few would have. I invite you to read Dr. Jane Aronson's op-Ed in yesterday's Washington Post for an idea of what conditions in Russian orphanages are like.

As for adopting domestically vs internationally, well both are difficult and often with good reason. Until you have faced that decision for yourself and really researched the reasons why people choose one or the other...well then it is difficult to have an opinion that is well informed. You may feel in a vague way that things should work one way but very few outside the adoption community have truly researched why the processes work the way that they do. I can share our family's story. I had a friend who adopted toddler twins from Russia, had a good experience so we called up their agency and went with them, although to a different country. It wasn't more complicated than that and I think you would find that our experience is not unusual.
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