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Old 01-19-2020, 11:06 AM
 
Location: NJ
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We're not supposed to look a gift horse in the mouth.

It still BS that NYC does not allow online ordering for OBCs. You can only order by regular mail. That means 12-16 week processing, assuming they don't claim it can't be found. NYS allows online ordering, but NYC is still stuck in the 19th century?

The form must also be notarized. I know plenty of notaries - banks I deal with, neighbors, etc. I don't like the idea of sharing this information with any of those people.

NYC is making this more difficult than it needs to be.
Read my reply over yours. They will be doing online orders once they get set up. It's all in my reply.

Of course they want your signature notarized if ordering by mail because anyone can say they're the adoptee. This is to protect the adoptee
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Old 01-21-2020, 07:10 AM
 
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Read my reply over yours. They will be doing online orders once they get set up. It's all in my reply.
Understood. I still think there is no excuse for not having it set up already. NYS had no problem getting online. NYC is just dragging their heels.

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Of course they want your signature notarized if ordering by mail because anyone can say they're the adoptee. This is to protect the adoptee
I understand why a notary is used (even though that can be fooled). Of course, it is arguably easier to claim you are someone else when doing something online . Is there something in the online request that is at least as secure as a notary (third party verification of identity)? Regardless, regular mail is an additional and unnecessary inconvenience.

It’s good that we finally have this. Just disappointed that they have to make it more difficult than it needs to be. That’s assuming they don’t take the easy way out and claim they can’t find your records. (Been there, done that, and know others it has happened to.)

On the plus side, at $15 it is less expensive than NYS.
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Old 01-21-2020, 10:06 AM
 
Location: NJ
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NY State birth certificates - New York State Department of Health - Fees - $45 (per copy)

NY State Department of Health - Obtaining Original (Pre-Adoption) Birth Certificate for Adoptees

Pre-Adoption Birth Certificates can be ordered online - Order Online Or by calling 877-456-7747


Original or Pre-Adoption Birth Certificate Frequently Asked Questions (PDF)

Requirements -

Who is eligible to get a copy of a pre-adoption birth certificate?

An adoptee who is 18 years of age or older
Direct Line Descendants - A Direct Line Descendant is a child, grandchild, or great grandchild, etc. of the adoptee
A lawful representative of the adopted person
A lawful representative of a deceased adopted person’s Direct Line Descendant

What identification needs to be submitted by the applicant?

Application must be submitted with copies of either A or B:

A One of the following forms of valid photo-ID:
Driver's license
State-issued, nondriver photo-ID card
Passport
U.S. Military-issued, photo-ID

OR

B Two of the following showing the applicant's name and address:
Utility or telephone bill
Letter from a government agency dated within the last six months

Please submit a copy of your U.S. passport in addition to the above ID if you are applying from a foreign country that requires a passport for travel.
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If anyone still has questions, I'd say to check out the New York Adoptee Rights Coalition website or check out the New York Adoptee Rights Coalition Facebook. There are also many NY adoption Facebook groups and adoptee Facebook groups for many states and some for different agencies and also Facebook groups for birth parents
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Understood. I still think there is no excuse for not having it set up already. NYS had no problem getting online. NYC is just dragging their heels.



I understand why a notary is used (even though that can be fooled). Of course, it is arguably easier to claim you are someone else when doing something online . Is there something in the online request that is at least as secure as a notary (third party verification of identity)? Regardless, regular mail is an additional and unnecessary inconvenience.

It’s good that we finally have this. Just disappointed that they have to make it more difficult than it needs to be. That’s assuming they don’t take the easy way out and claim they can’t find your records. (Been there, done that, and know others it has happened to.)

On the plus side, at $15 it is less expensive than NYS.
I didn't realize NY state was online.
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Old 01-21-2020, 06:17 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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I have ordered death certificates through VitalChek (the NYS online system) and found it neither easy nor straightforward. I prefer the low-tech option and have already mailed my OBC request in to NYC (despite my earlier post saying I would wait). It was easy for me.
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Old 01-21-2020, 10:36 PM
 
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I didn't realize NY state was online.
Yes, that was the first thing I noticed.

Having the NYC form notarized wasn't the biggest thing - just (IMO) an unnecessary inconvenience. Note that the NYS form is virtually identical to the NYC form, but no notary is required on the mailed-in application. If the online process is truly online, no notary is needed there either.

My past experience with NYC has jaded me. I'm not sure if NYC wants the notary to make it more difficult, or if they are just stuck in the 19th century. I suspect both to be the case.

I mailed my form today. The race is on to see which comes first... my OBC or my first social security check.



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Old 02-01-2020, 08:59 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Two weeks since I sent in my check to NYC, still not deposited. No question they're slammed with applications!
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Old 02-01-2020, 09:29 AM
 
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Sent my application in yesterday. Figured there was no rush as I waited this long and thought there would be a surge of applicants anyway.
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Old 02-10-2020, 10:26 PM
 
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It will be four weeks for me on Friday, and my check hasn't been deposited either. Government agencies don't usually start the clock at least until the info is entered/check is cashed. That means my 12-16 week wait hasn't started yet. This is one of those things where you need to sit back, relax, and think long term (months). It took Gov. Fredo a few months just to sign the bill.
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Old 04-15-2020, 12:32 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Today marks three months since I applied to NYC, check still not cashed. Not surprised since there's probably nobody at work to process these requests. Non-essential.
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Old 04-16-2020, 11:12 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Today marks three months since I applied to NYC, check still not cashed. Not surprised since there's probably nobody at work to process these requests. Non-essential.
That sucks. I can't imagine how long you and others will have to wait due to this virus
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