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These people were, in all likelihood, Hebrew. Meaning: descendants of Shem and not Ham. .
Such nonsense. These are peoples who originated in what is now Chad and South Sudan who gradually moved West. Along the way they encountered people coming down from North Africa who were mainly Berbers or Sahara region ethnic groups.
One of those kings was Mansa Musa. I believe "Musa" translates to Moses. You'll probably find many such translations that go back to Hebrew origins if you dig deep into the names.
So a black American whose name is Bill Franklin is English?
You can directly compare a Black American with a graduate degree (yes, we exist) with an African with a graduate degree.
sector.
Which is my point.
The reason why different groups of blacks have certain median household incomes is because of the composition of their populations. None of these groups are monolithic. The fact that Nigerians have higher median household incomes than Jamaicans who in turn out earn Americans is tied to the selectivity of migration. This high education and drive for Nigerians and drive for Jamaicans, and not because one group is "better" then the other. It is because of the collections of individuals in that group and what they bring.
FACT. Black Americans with advanced degrees do much better than do equivalent immigrants. They have a wider social base, don't suffer from a "3rd world stigma" and know how the system works to a higher degree. At the college level they do equally as well.
FACT. The less educated the black American the worse they do relative to black immigrants once we get to the partial college/associates degree level and below. The biggest gap is with those with less than high school. The black immigrant arrives with a belief in the American dream so less cynical about the system than is the less educated American.
They see a higher return for a given level of effort because they are less concerned with how a particular occupation is perceived. At this level the black American is still suffering from the impacts of Jim Crow. Unlike their more educated compatriots the less educated black immigrant arrives with more human and social capital than do native blacks, so are more likely to be employed and are more employable. Most of the skilled blacks on construction sites in NYC are immigrants. Caribbean immigrant women in healthcare will put in far more hours than will an American so they earn more.
So it is completely insulting to compare black immigrants with native blacks (Americans and the offspring of immigrants) because we aren't comparing two similar populations. In order to do a far assessment adjustments need to be made for educational attainment and for geographic location. Once we disaggregate based on this black Americans aren't necessarily worse off. 20% of black Americans, and 30% of Caribbean blacks have college degrees, vs. over 60% of Nigerians. Once we adjust for this its clear that African immigrants pay a huge "African penalty" even when compared to Caribbean immigrants.
BTW 25% of local blacks attending Ivy League schools are the off spring of black immigrants so I expect that this cohort will do as well as their fully American counterparts.
You can also compare a Nigerian cab driver with an African American bus driver.
You can compare Nigerian, West Indian, and African American HRA and other civil service workers, as all t.
The Nigerians who work at MTA are likely to be engineers or in the accounting/finance department. Many of the mechanics at MTA are also Caribbean blacks (and Indians). You will recall that a past president of the transit worker union was a Trinidadian.
Again each group of blacks has their own characteristics which determines where they fit into NYCs economy. Past racism in NYC has made acquiring the skilled trades to not be easy for American blacks so most of the city's black skilled workers are from the Caribbean, many out earning college grads ($100k+). The black construction contractors in NYC are mainly Caribbean, or of Caribbean descent.
FACT. Black Americans with advanced degrees do much better than do equivalent immigrants. They have a wider social base, don't suffer from a "3rd world stigma" and know how the system works to a higher degree.
There's no "third world stigma". Blacks from third world countries are considered to be better than Black Americans - even a Somalian or a Haitian is regarded higher than American black people.
There's no "third world stigma". Blacks from third world countries are considered to be better than Black Americans - even a Somalian or a Haitian is regarded higher than American black people.
They have what is call "foreigner privilege" White Americans have no "historical beef" or power domination
relationship with Haitians or Somalians. However, if a Black American went to Europe, they would have
"foreigner privilege". For example, I have had family members travel to London who are Black Americans.
Some family members went to London on a vacation they went to ask one of the guards at the gate a
question and the guard was very standoffish and unfriendly. When they said they were American and from
D.C. the attitude changed to 100% friendly and sociable. In England, it is the West Indians who are considered the "bad guys" and the problem, not Black Americans.
These are all local permutations of the global white supremacy system
There's no "third world stigma". Blacks from third world countries are considered to be better than Black Americans - even a Somalian or a Haitian is regarded higher than American black people.
I wonder why then do black American college graduates out earn those from Africa and the Caribbean.
This "who is better than whom" is a divide and rule tactic and only stupid blacks fall for it. At the end of the day in the USA black=black. And if you doubt compare median household incomes for Nigerians with Asians. They have equal levels of educational attainment, and all indicators are that Nigerian immigrants are very success oriented. This doesn't spill over into incomes earned though.
They have what is call "foreigner privilege" White Americans have no "historical beef" or power domination
relationship with Haitians or Somalians. However, if a Black American went to Europe, they would have
"foreigner privilege". For example, I have had family members travel to London who are Black Americans.
Some family members went to London on a vacation they went to ask one of the guards at the gate a
question and the guard was very standoffish and unfriendly. When they said they were American and from
D.C. the attitude changed to 100% friendly and sociable. In England, it is the West Indians who are considered the "bad guys" and the problem, not Black Americans.
These are all local permutations of the global white supremacy system
Black American tourists visiting the UK enjoy far more privilege than do Caribbean and African immigrants to the USA. After all they are tourists who can afford to visit London.
Please don't tell me that you think that a Nigerians with a deep Nigerian accent is going to enjoy privilege over a black American with a Harvard degree.
The only level where foreign privilege might exist in the USA is among the least educated of both groups. Whites think the worst of black Americans at that level. Their view of uneducated black immigrants is moderately more favorable. Yes they will be hired for low end jobs. Once these people have been around long enough and stop demanding better pay they will no longer be favorably viewed.
I have seen a lot of negatives written about West Indians living in Brooklyn neighborhoods which are now undergoing gentrification. You would think that its Trump talking when most of these people probably voted for Sanders and will vote for Cynthia Nixon.
Thank you Agbor and Tritone. I couldn't have said it any better.
OK so I went to Goldman Sachs and all the black analysts there were speaking Jamaican patwah or Yoruba. I watch CNN, CNBC, and MSNBC and again those Jamaican patwah and Yoruba speaking blacks. I even heard that Don Lemon is a Trinidadian.
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I watch CNN, CNBC, and MSNBC and again those Jamaican patwah and Yoruba speaking blacks. I even heard that Don Lemon is a Trinidadian.
