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Old 10-27-2015, 03:31 PM
 
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Athletics are miniscule in terms of importance. Whites have driven every game changing discovery and theory in the past 500 years including but not limited to:

Quantum physics
General relativity
The uncertainty principle
The internal combustion engine
Manned flight
Spaceflight
Capitalism/Communism/Socialism
Splitting the atom
Representative Democracy

and on and on. The most recent addition is the Higgs Boson.

I happen to think all people are equal, but if you are implying that blacks are superior because they can run really fast, well, I will just let everyone contrast our posts and think what they will of you and your insights.
and this is where race-war starts on the internet...

Side note: I kinda agree with your point, ONLY because the op hinted that the "black > white" while not suggesting the opposite case, to make an unbiased point.
As if it's f**ing, utterly impossible to think the opposite but it's too damn obvious the blacks kick as* - well...politically correct idiots here and there...not surprised.
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Old 10-29-2015, 04:02 PM
 
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All races are equal but for certain sports, certain phenotypes that blacks have makes it easier for them to be more athletic in sports, and that tall black people are generally more athletic than tall white people because of phenotypes (basketball) just like Eastern Asians tend to be smaller than most others. This isn't really racial as it is diets of their ancestors, where their ancestors sedentary, or were they living a hunter-gatherer life (High rates of obesity in Polynesia- Oceania in certain countries etc. Like today the average man is much taller than a couple thousand years ago, Also most athletic mile runners are from East Africa etc. the lifestyle of their ancestors probably help them and living in high elevations probably helps in certain sports etc. Their is also the genetics of when you gain weight were do you gain it, same with muscle etc.
Races are equal but being a certain race that most likely did a certain lifestyle/ lived in a certain area, before the modern sedentary lifestyle will make it seem like their is a superior race etc. As everyone starts having mor enad more descendents of the relatively sedentary lifestyle people will start to look the same body shape wise as their ancestors and your ancestors did the same thing on a daily basis.
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Old 11-03-2015, 11:27 PM
 
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Athletics are miniscule in terms of importance. Whites have driven every game changing discovery and theory in the past 500 years including but not limited to:

Quantum physics -
General relativity
The uncertainty principle
The internal combustion engine
Manned flight
Spaceflight
Capitalism/Communism/Socialism
Splitting the atom
Representative Democracy

and on and on. The most recent addition is the Higgs Boson.

I happen to think all people are equal, but if you are implying that blacks are superior because they can run really fast, well, I will just let everyone contrast our posts and think what they will of you and your insights.
Aside from the fact that Africans and African Americans were denied entrance into universities and colleges that offered quality STEM educational opportunity some found away into these programs and contributed to the science of all the above (See this short list of Elmer Imes, Warren Henry, Shirley Ann Jackson, Moddie Daniel Taylor, William Knox Lawrence Knox (I would add my uncle worked on the entire Saturn V booster program as a mathematician).

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Old 11-04-2015, 01:05 AM
 
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All races are equal but for certain sports, certain phenotypes that blacks have makes it easier for them to be more athletic in sports, and that tall black people are generally more athletic than tall white people because of phenotypes (basketball) just like Eastern Asians tend to be smaller than most others. This isn't really racial as it is diets of their ancestors, where their ancestors sedentary, or were they living a hunter-gatherer life (High rates of obesity in Polynesia- Oceania in certain countries etc. Like today the average man is much taller than a couple thousand years ago, Also most athletic mile runners are from East Africa etc. the lifestyle of their ancestors probably help them and living in high elevations probably helps in certain sports etc. Their is also the genetics of when you gain weight were do you gain it, same with muscle etc.
Races are equal but being a certain race that most likely did a certain lifestyle/ lived in a certain area, before the modern sedentary lifestyle will make it seem like their is a superior race etc. As everyone starts having mor enad more descendents of the relatively sedentary lifestyle people will start to look the same body shape wise as their ancestors and your ancestors did the same thing on a daily basis.

Africa and Europe are both extremely diverse continents filled with hundreds of different variants/cultures/ethnic groups so any type of talk involving the "smarts, athletic prowess, endurance, strength etc" of "Africans" or "Europeans" is just stupid...

Most African Americans and White Americans are "muts" who are a mixture of a bunch of different African/European ethnicities (mostly West African and West European), so it's hard to tell the differences between them....But if you travel throughout Africa/Europe you can see it much better.....There is a huge amount of diversity within every race.
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Old 11-04-2015, 01:14 AM
 
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Is the Black superior to the White race? Or are they rather equal . By Black Race , I mean Africans and by White Race I mean Europeans. In my humble opinion, no race or people are above the other. We are all equal.

I agree....No race is superior....Europeans invented more things (and by Europeans you should narrow it down to Western Europeans since almost all innovation/conquest/technological advance came from Western Europe) likely because Europe is a smaller continent and has less abundant resources for people to use/exploit....

Smaller territories with less abundant resources=more incentive to explore other areas and branch out into the world....This desire to explore others areas than leads to technological advancement and rapid industrialization....to fit the need of that exploration....It's basically the same reason why Japan industrialized before China did.....

Europeans only pulled away from Asians/Africans/Natives in terms of technical advancement/innovation in about the last 500 years (which is absolutely nothing in terms of human evolutionary time)....Up until the Renaissance period Europeans were just as backwards as everyone else.....I don't think a bunch of inventions from the 1600s onward proves superiority when for 98% of Human history Europe was just like everyone else.....Europe was very backwards and unproductive for a large period of it's history....

Maybe if Europeans had ALWAYS had superior civilizations compared to others throughout all of human history I might buy it....But that isn't the reality...Europe simply industrialized first and reaped the massive benefits of that...

I think Humans are all the same basically....No race is "better" or "worse" than the other....That goes both ways (for both Right Wing and Left Wing talking points)....

Africa has had just as many genocides/human rights violations/ethnic massacres as Europe has (yet you always hear non stop from Left Wingers about how "evil" Whites are because of our "history" compared to other races....as if every other race on the planet hasn't done horrible unthinkable things to others)

And I also don't think Europeans are superior to Africans/Asians simply because they industrialized first and innovated during the Industrial revolution when for 99% of Human history they were in the exact same position as Africa/Asia. was.......
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Old 11-04-2015, 01:25 AM
 
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Is the Black superior to the White race? Or are they rather equal . By Black Race , I mean Africans and by White Race I mean Europeans. In my humble opinion, no race or people are above the other. We are all equal.
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Just watch the Olympics
I'm not sure if I buy the "Blacks are better at sports" line either....

The only sports I care about (Boxing, MMA, Wrestling) are very evenly dominated by Whites, Blacks and Hispanics.....Combat Sports are about as "physical prowess" as you can get and the amount of Whites, Blacks, Hispanics that do well in them are remarkable equal....No race/ethnic group dominates

Go to any boxing or mma card and you can find a Hispanic knocking out a Black guy...A Black guy knocking out a White guy....A White guy knocking out a Black guy etc etc all down the line with it all being random and no pattern....Same is true of Wrestling....Go watch the NCAA finals there is always an even assortment of Whites, Blacks and Hispanics......
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Old 11-04-2015, 03:26 AM
 
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I'm not sure if I buy the "Blacks are better at sports" line either....

The only sports I care about (Boxing, MMA, Wrestling) are very evenly dominated by Whites, Blacks and Hispanics.....Combat Sports are about as "physical prowess" as you can get and the amount of Whites, Blacks, Hispanics that do well in them are remarkable equal....No race/ethnic group dominates

Go to any boxing or mma card and you can find a Hispanic knocking out a Black guy...A Black guy knocking out a White guy....A White guy knocking out a Black guy etc etc all down the line with it all being random and no pattern....Same is true of Wrestling....Go watch the NCAA finals there is always an even assortment of Whites, Blacks and Hispanics......

African countries actually don't do well in the Olympics, these "competitions" are directly proportionate to a nation's economy. The wealthier the country the more money they have to spend on competitive sports.
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Old 11-04-2015, 10:40 AM
 
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I am not saying Africans are better at sports but saying because of previous ancestral diets and lifestyles people from one region generally tend to be better at certain sports that involve certain things. For example a Tibetan is probably a better natural born climber than someone born and raised in Houston and has family dating from England near sea level for decades. Not saying a race is superior in sport but that because of diet+lifestyle certain races will have more people with certain phenotype which makes it seem like a race is dominating a sport when it is just a certain phenotype that is dominating the sport. For example the phenotype that most ballet dancers at the highest level have isn't very common among Africans to make their frame that small so more east asians and europeans who have that phenotype will mean their is a greater chance for east asians and europeans to excel in that competition
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Old 11-05-2015, 02:50 PM
 
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I am not saying Africans are better at sports but saying because of previous ancestral diets and lifestyles people from one region generally tend to be better at certain sports that involve certain things.
David Epstein author of "The Sports Gene: Inside the Science of Extraordinary Athletic Performance" points out that because Africa has the most diverse genetic diversity on the planet we are not only liable to find the fastest runners but the slowest as well, unfortunately no one is looking for the slowest.

Of course you are right different genetic populations (I prefer this to the term race) will excel at different physical tasks based upon their particular morphological evolution. West Africans don't make very good distance runners and East Africans suck in the sprints. Neither are very good at gymnastics or swimming because they both rely of long torsos indicative of populations that lived in colder climes. Tibetans, and certain populations of Indians and Pakistanis as a population are unassailable at high altitudes which illustrates the point that despite that, every nationality has found a way to equal their feats of mountain climbing just as even the slowest European Olympic caliber sprinter is faster than the average African American.

So in the end, when judging who is superior in any sport that has to be measured in thousandths of a second just how inconsequential is the argument over the superiority of one genetic population over another?
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Old 11-05-2015, 07:16 PM
 
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David Epstein author of "The Sports Gene: Inside the Science of Extraordinary Athletic Performance" points out that because Africa has the most diverse genetic diversity on the planet we are not only liable to find the fastest runners but the slowest as well, unfortunately no one is looking for the slowest.

Of course you are right different genetic populations (I prefer this to the term race) will excel at different physical tasks based upon their particular morphological evolution. West Africans don't make very good distance runners and East Africans suck in the sprints. Neither are very good at gymnastics or swimming because they both rely of long torsos indicative of populations that lived in colder climes. Tibetans, and certain populations of Indians and Pakistanis as a population are unassailable at high altitudes which illustrates the point that despite that, every nationality has found a way to equal their feats of mountain climbing just as even the slowest European Olympic caliber sprinter is faster than the average African American.

So in the end, when judging who is superior in any sport that has to be measured in thousandths of a second just how inconsequential is the argument over the superiority of one genetic population over another?
Great post. Like I said I also believe all races are equal but because of genetics certain races have more people with certain races. thanks for correcting my post on Tibetans and agree that the differences are so small that it is l,ike saying oif born black you have a .000001 chance of becoming an Olympic sprinter but your still 100 times more likely than someone born any other "race" .
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