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The issue at hand is those Dashiki wearing AAs are just appropriating someones culture just because they share some melanin percentages. a desperate attempt to find "culture" "heritage" ect. AAs did not inherit that from Africa, thats fabrication, just like Kwanzaa and all the other made up stuff. it is offensive, ridiculous and sad.
They are actually creating a new culture. The pan Africanism that they espouse didn't originate in the continent of Africa. So they can blend as much as they wish, just as how Africans themselves coopted the musical traditions of black America and the Caribbean and Latin America. Should a Cuban demand to know why the rumba of the Congo sounds nothing like that which originated in Cuba?
Yes there are some descendants of the transatlantic slave trade who do insist that they are an integral part of the African conti8nent. These are a minority and in fact most are only marginally interested in the deep specifics of Africa.
African Americans can wear whatever they want. Clothes do not define any man or woman. Melanin alone doesn't define who they are but DNA and ancestry does. African Americans don't come from Europeans. When White Americans go to parts of Europe to connect with their heritage no one laughs at them for wearing traditional attire.
and all of that is fine provided that they don't behave like you who insists that black Americans are "Africans" and should drop every thing to run "home". As descendants of Africans blacks from the Americas and Europe can coopt and reshape anything as they please. This is what Africans themselves do with many cultural artifacts of the African Diaspora. And Africans have every right to do so, but must be honest about it.
The only problem is when people claim that what they do is an original authentic, and not a cooptation which is than adapted. Yes someone with blended ancestries from the Congo basin, the Biafra and the Gold coasts can blend all of that if they so wish.
Now... What about Africans and the rest of the world appropriating Afram culture??? Not a sound on that one. Now is that a "desperate attempt" to find "heritage"? More importantly aren't you WHITE?
And Africans are much involved in this, so ought to be very careful when AAs and other diaspora blacks coopt and adapt aspects of African culture.
Given that Africans are the poorest groups of blacks on this planet it isn't a good luck when they allow themselves to be used by whites to pull down other blacks. They are also pulling themselves down as well.
That is if they go to a place they are certain they have ancestry is from, like if someone with Irish ancestors going to Ireland and wearing an Irish kilt. .
In fact Europeans think that white Americans are equally ridiculous. The mere fact that someone has a last name which originated in Ireland makes one "Irish". Most white Americans have ancestries from all over Europe, and more of them than they think also have non Euro ancestries as well.
Americans of any group, claiming unique authenticity to a specific group based on assumed ancestry are being ridiculous.
The Afrocentrism is merely a reaction towards white racists such as yourself. So this is your creation. If it pains you so much that you have to put your two cents in to what Black Americans allegedly wear, you should go hug and by accepting of those people wearing those garments that allegedly offend you so.
This is quite correct. Minus this white racism, ironically from people who are more RECENT to the USA than are most black Americans, AAs would in fact be as America centric as that of white peoples who live in the South. They know of nothing else and are connected to no one else. Who they are is who America made them to be.
Most black Americans are descended from people who arrived, against their will, prior to 1776. Most white Americans are descended from 19th C migration from Europe. So who is more "American", blacks or whites?
You clearly have no one to talk to and are engaging in fruitless discussion hoping someone bites. This is very sad as there are real topics that can be discussed here. You need to stop throwing out statements that someone is being dishonest without any back up as this should be flagged as a personal attack!
A have a friend who immigrated from Ghana and he finds the "pan-Africanism" in the African American community and the pan-African outfits some of them wear (I imgaine these would be seen in Jeremiah Wright's congregation) totally ludicrous. He said it was like a white American wearing an Italian suit, a French stripped shirt, a British tie, and an Irish kilt and calling himself pan-European. This is a GREAT illustration.
Yes, we African Americans are very delusional when it comes to actual African culture and heritage of different African countries. This is what made the movie “Black Panther” so insulting with all the cultural appropriation of African Americans in dashikis with ignorant accents.
When Black Panther 2 comes out, which will be directed and written by African Americans, get your popcorn ready again. We are going to look like clowns.
Yes, we African Americans are very delusional when it comes to actual African culture and heritage of different African countries. This is what made the movie “Black Panther” so insulting with all the cultural appropriation of African Americans in dashikis with ignorant accents.
When Black Panther 2 comes out, which will be directed and written by African Americans, get your popcorn ready again. We are going to look like clowns.
Now how about Africans stop appropriating our slangs/AAVE which makes them look like clowns. Stop swagger jacking our musical styles. Stop swagger jacking our urban styles. Stop swagger jacking our ancestral roles(looking at you Harriet film). The list goes on. And the Black Panther cast was also made up of other Black groups besides African-Americans so get the **** out of here. How about you share the same energy with that goofy looking chick Cynthia Erivo playing an African-American icon while making that icon look like a mammy. Yea we want all our culture back that Africans have hijacked throughout the years and then we'll give them back their dusty ass made in China Dashikis. And "ignorant accents" will stop when they stop imitating AAVE slangs they don't understand in their ****ty accents. So once again GTFO.
You clearly have no one to talk to and are engaging in fruitless discussion hoping someone bites. This is very sad as there are real topics that can be discussed here. You need to stop throwing out statements that someone is being dishonest without any back up as this should be flagged as a personal attack!
Yep like you screaming how blacks are being killed by the thousands in the USA so must rush to Africa, kiss the ground and wail "I'm home". This while the Africans look at you like you are mad.
Africa suits you, but it doesn't suit others, even including some born there, so you need to respect their views.
Now how about Africans stop appropriating our slangs/AAVE which makes them look like clowns. Stop swagger jacking our musical styles. Stop swagger jacking our urban styles. Stop swagger jacking our ancestral roles(looking at you Harriet film). The list goes on. And the Black Panther cast was also made up of other Black groups besides African-Americans so get the **** out of here. How about you share the same energy with that goofy looking chick Cynthia Erivo playing an African-American icon while making that icon look like a mammy. Yea we want all our culture back that Africans have hijacked throughout the years and then we'll give them back their dusty ass made in China Dashikis. And "ignorant accents" will stop when they stop imitating AAVE slangs they don't understand in their ****ty accents. So once again GTFO.
The issue is that people of African descent have been dispersed around the planet, some voluntarily and others not. They have adapted to these environments so transforming the cultures that they brought with them into something new.
So if Africans see adaptations of African inspired aesthetics by blacks of the Americas they need to respect it for what it is. Aside from a few clowns pretending to be REAL Africans most of us are proud to be what we are. We are OF Africa because this is where our ancestry lies. We are NOT African and few of us have any real interest in becoming one.
Africans have similarly drawn inspiration from the cultures which these black Diasporas have developed. At various times the black cultures of the USA, Cuba, Jamaica and Brazil has served as an inspiration. In some instances it was an African origin aesthetic taken to the Americas, transformed and then re-adapted by people in Africa itself.
The Black Panther movie doesn't even pretend that it represent real Africa. It merely represents an idyllic world that some blacks, living as marginalized minorities, wish to see. Certainly NO African nation is that is anything like Wakanda.
In fact having an African representing an AA of the period of enslavement mightn't be totally inappropriate, given that many of these enslaved peoples had a more direct contact with Africa than do most contemporary AAs.
My problem with Cynthia is that she disrespects a culture from which she earns a living. She made remarks, which might be misinterpreted. She should engage in a serious discussions providing clarity, and also showing that she does respect the AA culture that she almost always portrays. Unless she gets roles that deal with West African immigrants to the UK she cannot disrespect black Americans, their culture, or allow herself to be used by others (whites) who disrespect their fellow countrymen shoes ancestry is largely of Africa.
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