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Old 04-26-2018, 06:52 PM
 
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China is very crowded and has money -buying a new farm land
Is also done by Saudi Arabia in Mississippi

 
Old 04-26-2018, 11:27 PM
 
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Ultimately the Nigerian military will kill off Boko Haram. No big deal or threat. If your fame to claim is kidnapping school girls you've shown just how weak you are.
I don't think that the Nigerian military are as confident about that as you are. Their claim to fame is reducing northeastern Nigeria to a state of semi famine as farmers have been run off their lands.
 
Old 04-26-2018, 11:28 PM
 
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I don't think that the Nigerian military are as confident about that as you are. Their claim to fame is reducing northeastern Nigeria to a state of semi famine as farmers have been run off their lands.
The Nigeria military has kept Nigeria together, when there have been attempts at succession.

And yes, rural areas cannot shield Black people anywhere in the world from economic development, technological development, etc.

Large scale corporate farming is here to stay, and so is urbanization.
 
Old 04-27-2018, 12:59 AM
 
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The Caribbean is not the world's food basket, either.

Of course, can you evidence that most of the agriculture from the Caribbean is small scale? Back up this assertion.
The sugar industry is virtually collapsed and that was the mega farming in the English speaking Caribbean most countries it was state owned. Despite massive subsidies its no more.

That which remains is performed by small and mid sized farming. Almost none of the food production for local consumption is in the hands of mega plantations. The agricultural sector is no longer targeted by either foreign investors or by the large corporate sector. 20% of the labor force in Jamaica remains in the agricultural sector, most of these being small and mid sized farmers who account for the bulk of the local production of food for the domestic markets.
 
Old 04-27-2018, 01:16 AM
 
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The Nigeria military has kept Nigeria together, when there have been attempts at succession.

And yes, rural areas cannot shield Black people anywhere in the world from economic development, technological development, etc.

Large scale corporate farming is here to stay, and so is urbanization.
In fact a ticking time bomb is the massive urbanization of Africa. What are the 20 million people in some of these mega cities going to do? You do know that NYC is now a middling city in size compared to giants like Lagos. Europe cannot absorb these people. I suggest that you spend a week in Kibera, that infamous Nairobi slum. Note that Kenya is one of Africa's most advanced countries yet its cities cannot effective utilize all of these people streaming from the rural areas. Africa is also increasingly unable to feed itself.

The proposed mega farms are to feed Indians and Chinese. Just as Asian fishermen have depleted the waters of many African countries they will do the same as their inappropriate farming exhausts the soils and depletes its water. You do know that the Somali pirates arose because Asian mega fishing fleets emptied its waters rendering the local unable to fish, so they turned to piracy. The region of Somalia where much of this occurs is actually one of the more stable areas, but mega fishing created this problem.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-n...-idUSKBN1GH1IH

All due to Boko Haram so continue to think that encouraging social disruption in impoverished regions doesn't have repercussions. The root cause of Boko Haram was the massive youth unemployment that occurred in northern Nigeria. Yes people leaving the rural areas, headed to urban areas, ripped away from the value systems that had sustained them for generations so perfect fodder for populists. One can say that Boko Haram is equivalent to the Trump movement in how it successfully attracted the disaffected and then used them to grab power.

I am curious as to where you think that corporate farming has done a good job in the 3rd world. Even the much vaunted "green revolution" of the 60s is now increasingly discredited. In fact strengthening the productivity of rural farmers is now seen as more likely to lead to sustainable development.

I bet you have never been on a farm in a 3rd world country, and yet you are the expert. Do you know how much poverty, corruption and oppressive violence by assorted oligarchies has been facilitated by mega farms? In fact in many countries, land reform, which is splitting up these estates and allowing peasant farmers to become land owners as in fact led to rising living standards in many places.
 
Old 04-27-2018, 01:23 AM
 
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China is very crowded and has money -buying a new farm land
Is also done by Saudi Arabia in Mississippi
Yes Chinese and Japanese emptied Africa's waters of fish and now they will destroy their farm lands by pushing heavy equipment, massive pesticides and heavy water utilization, even as global change renders Africa drier.
 
Old 04-27-2018, 03:35 AM
 
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In fact a ticking time bomb is the massive urbanization of Africa. What are the 20 million people in some of these mega cities going to do? You do know that NYC is now a middling city in size compared to giants like Lagos. Europe cannot absorb these people. I suggest that you spend a week in Kibera, that infamous Nairobi slum. Note that Kenya is one of Africa's most advanced countries yet its cities cannot effective utilize all of these people streaming from the rural areas. Africa is also increasingly unable to feed itself.

The proposed mega farms are to feed Indians and Chinese. Just as Asian fishermen have depleted the waters of many African countries they will do the same as their inappropriate farming exhausts the soils and depletes its water. You do know that the Somali pirates arose because Asian mega fishing fleets emptied its waters rendering the local unable to fish, so they turned to piracy. The region of Somalia where much of this occurs is actually one of the more stable areas, but mega fishing created this problem.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-n...-idUSKBN1GH1IH

All due to Boko Haram so continue to think that encouraging social disruption in impoverished regions doesn't have repercussions. The root cause of Boko Haram was the massive youth unemployment that occurred in northern Nigeria. Yes people leaving the rural areas, headed to urban areas, ripped away from the value systems that had sustained them for generations so perfect fodder for populists. One can say that Boko Haram is equivalent to the Trump movement in how it successfully attracted the disaffected and then used them to grab power.

I am curious as to where you think that corporate farming has done a good job in the 3rd world. Even the much vaunted "green revolution" of the 60s is now increasingly discredited. In fact strengthening the productivity of rural farmers is now seen as more likely to lead to sustainable development.

I bet you have never been on a farm in a 3rd world country, and yet you are the expert. Do you know how much poverty, corruption and oppressive violence by assorted oligarchies has been facilitated by mega farms? In fact in many countries, land reform, which is splitting up these estates and allowing peasant farmers to become land owners as in fact led to rising living standards in many places.
In Paraguay I have.

Ah, the socialist third world liberation ideology is debunked and dead, as African Nations continue to seek foreign investment and continue to urbanite and develop.

You live in NYC, and see things through the various failures there. If only all those Black peolle Gad stayed in the farm.

Asian nations are managing urbanisation just fine, as are Western and Latin American nations. Ultimately so go will African nations.
 
Old 04-27-2018, 09:02 AM
 
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Ghana has the world’s fastest growing economy according to both the IMF and World Bank. Ethiopia is number 2.
None of that contradicts anything I wrote. Are you familiar with how math works?
 
Old 04-27-2018, 09:04 AM
 
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Wealthy regions of the world don't entirely feed themselves. The US, Europe, Canada, Japan, Korea, and China all import a lot of food.

Just as Africans export food, like anyone else they can import food.
Net the key is net. The US is not a net importer of food.
 
Old 04-27-2018, 09:11 AM
 
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Ghana's economy depends a lot on oil and gas exports. Hence it is vulnerable just like Angola's.

Ethiopia is a different story, though. Much more solid. But there are internal conflicts with certain ethnic groups, which can easily lead to yet another African civil war.
Ethiopia has one of the lowest GDP per capita in Africa, which is currently under $800 according to the World bank. The Equivalent number for Ghana is $1500. Ghana is not wholly dependent on oil as oil production is just now coming on line. Cocoa and gold remain its largest exports in terms of dollar value

https://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/country/gha/

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The top exports of Ghana are Gold ($9.7B), Cocoa Beans ($2.4B), Crude Petroleum ($1.15B), Coconuts, Brazil Nuts, and Cashews ($1B) and Sawn Wood ($426M), using the 1992 revision of the HS (Harmonized System) classification.
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