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Old 02-10-2017, 12:42 AM
 
Location: Macao
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Mozambique has different dynamics than Zimbabwe or South Africa.
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Would you elaborate?
I can elaborate briefly. Mozambique is a Portuguese-speaking country, with Portuguese colonialism, whereas the other two are English-speaking with English colonialism.

The types of things that occurred in the different countries, on account of colonialism, are different.

Some of the very basics....the Portuguese people had a different approach to colonialism. The Portuguese didn't establish the Apartheid system as in South Africa; and intermixed marriages didn't have the illegality to them as it once had in South Africa.

It makes the Portuguese/Mozambique look at white people in a different way than they might in South Africa. Also, in a country like South Africa, you have millions and millions of white people living there still. In Mozambique, you don't have anywhere even remotely those types of numbers.

In short, you'd be seen more as a 'foreigner' perhaps in Mozambique, as opposed to being a white South African with all kinds of different connotations that that might have in South Africa or Zimbabwe.

(I'm also trying to be careful, as South Africa is infinitely complex, but I hope I can at least shed a little bit of light on how they might be different experiences for a 'white person' coming from outside of Africa).

I'm a white person myself, who has visited both Mozambique and South Africa, and they feel different....I saw a lot more Portuguese people speaking Portuguese in Mozambique and they interact with Africans all the time, and they are relatively small in number. In South Africa, the white South African population is extremely large, and because there are millions of them, they create more neighborhoods that seem more wealthier as well, which can give perceptions of 'castle walls' particularly with the security that exists in South Africa.

Hope I can give this justice...but my very simplistic overview explanation.
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Old 02-10-2017, 12:44 AM
 
Location: Macao
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I remember seeing some internet short movie about a grand hotel during colonialism that has been reduced to ruins by squatters.
That's up in Beira.

Yes, a once abandoned beautiful well-built hotel. Now very inhabited with families, businesses, and entire world in there...it's own little micro-economy.
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Old 02-10-2017, 11:54 AM
 
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Hmmm stories...Only stories I have are broken memories from when I was younger and went on a trip there with my dad and some of his work friends. Drove to the border and then needed to use 4x4s from there. Any time we got stuck the locals were always eager to help push the cars

Had a good friend in Uni from Mozambique. Literally 1 of the friendliest and hard working guys I've known Between them and the Zimbabweans it's difficult to tell who's friendlier haha



So what?
Search for that phrase on youtube and you'll see. It was a joke. Search for "Carl the ****" or "AIDS Skrillex" combined with "White male".
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Old 02-10-2017, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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That's up in Beira.

Yes, a once abandoned beautiful well-built hotel. Now very inhabited with families, businesses, and entire world in there...it's own little micro-economy.
It didn't look very appealing in the video.
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Old 02-13-2017, 12:25 PM
 
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I can elaborate briefly. Mozambique is a Portuguese-speaking country, with Portuguese colonialism, whereas the other two are English-speaking with English colonialism.



Hope I can give this justice...but my very simplistic overview explanation.

While you express the virtues of these former Portuguese colonies need I remind you that they had to fight wars of independence long after colonialism was not seen as a good thing. And during the colonial era the Portuguese definitely ruled the roost. When the abandoned Angola things were so bad that the locals lacked the expertise to perform basic maintenance.

What you are seeing is a POST colonial environment. Not sure if you went to Angola especially in 1970 your views would have been the same.
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