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Old 04-12-2020, 02:27 PM
 
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Has anyone seen the DNA results for two groups of middle kingdom mummies? Their DNA leaned towards the middle east.

This mummy showed U5b2b5 mtDNA.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart...ead-180968674/


These two mummy brothers showed M1a1 mtdna. There is debate over the origins of the M hapologroup. Is it African or Asian?

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0116222507.htm
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Old 04-12-2020, 02:34 PM
 
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Why Asante/Sir Shawn/The Unbreakable...back AGAIN!

How long until you get yourself banned this time?

The ancient Egyptians, like moderns, were a mixed race. Some are strikingly "black" looking, but some mummies have red, or even blond hair, and some old-kingdom statues have blue eyes.

This confirms the research of genetic mappers who know that back-migrations into Africa, all of which necessarily go through Egypt, go back 50,000 years.

Good luck to you and your peeps on Egyptosearch.
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Old 04-12-2020, 03:23 PM
 
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How much did stone age back migrations of Eurasian people affect the early Egyptian population?
Even if there was a back migration, there were no other peoples on this Earth besides black Africans until 6,000 years ago.



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These people had to enter Africa through Egypt.
So you're saying with no evidence that black people who crossed an arbitrary geographic line, once and came back across that arbitrary line completely different? There is no evidence for that, and even if there was a back migration, what possible affect would that have had on the black Africans (per consistent osteological data) who became the creators of Nubia and Kemet?

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"So the study has not only made it possible to confirm the Eurasian origin of the U6 lineage but also to support the hypothesis that some populations embarked on a back-migration to Africa from Eurasia at the start of the Upper Palaeolithic, about 40-45,000 years ago."
A more recent study points to early Europeans again simply being a subset of black Africans colonization.

"Calculated by different means from the same data, consistently demonstrate a significantly more
recent relationship between Europe and Africa than between East Asia and Africa. Using simulated populations, we show that under the single-wave ‘‘Out of Africa’’ model,

While the exact bias is difficult to estimate (Sved et al. 2008), it appears that post-divergence migration rates from Africa to Europe would need to be approximately CONSTANT because we observe consistent ratios of TF and TLD at different genetic distances. Thus, the observations are suggestive that GREATER MIGRATION TO EUROPE FROM SUB-SAHARAN AFRICAN HAS BEEN A LONG-TERM PHENOMENON."
-McEvoy et al.

Case and Point...

Frege et al 2017:

“IAM (Early Neolithic North Africans) people do ***NOT*** possess any of the European SNPs associated with light pigmentation, and most likely had dark(black) skin and eyes. IAM samples present ancestral alleles for pigmentation-associated variants present in SLC24A5 (rs1426654), SLC45A2 (rs16891982) and OCA2 (rs16891982 and 12913832) genes. On the other hand, KEB individuals exhibit some European- derived alleles that predispose individuals to lighter skin and eye colour, including those on genes SLC24A5 (rs1426654) and OCA2 (rs16891982) (Supplementary Note 11).”


Do you see why what you're saying makes no sense? For one the early carriers of U6 in what is "Europe" were obviously black Africans, who were carrying a subset of black African DNA that was simply on the European landmass. This maternal marker of U6 is found in black African populations from the East to the West Coast, and yet they have no bearing on the racial type. Not to mention the latter study completely obliterates your assumption of this genotype's affect on the population's phenotype. Even with the presence of U6 in Northern Africa early on, the population of Northern Africa remained with black skin and black eye color. Your assumptions about "Eurasian DNA" is nothing more than wishful thinking.

This had no bearing against the black African origins of ancient Kemet. To take it a bit further, the white population in Europe today has nothing to do with this pre Bronze Age European population. That is the silly assumption that many of you make. This has been known for two centuries, and further verified by more recent research.

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Old 04-12-2020, 03:37 PM
 
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Has anyone seen the DNA results for two groups of middle kingdom mummies? Their DNA leaned towards the middle east.

This mummy showed U5b2b5 mtDNA.

[url]https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/how-fbi-helped-museum-learn-identify-4000-year-old-severed-head-180968674/[/url
Yeah well the ancestral form and the it's major subclade are both ONLY found in Africa, so African in origins if the most probable conclusion.

U5b arose between 19,000 and 26,000 years ago[32] and has polymorphisms in 150 7768 14182 ( + U5 polymorphisms). Found among Siwa Berbers of the Siwa Oasis.[33]
U5b1 arose between 11,000 and 20,000 years ago[34] and has polymorphisms in 5656 ( + U5b polymorphisms).
U5b1a has polymorphisms in 5656 15097, 16189 and has lost its polymorphism in 7028 (backmutation) ( + U5b1 polymorphisms).
U5b1b: has been found in Saami of Scandinavia, Finnish and the Berbers of North Africa, which were found to share an extremely young branch, aged merely ∼9,000 years. U5b1b was also found in Fulbe and Papel people in Guinea-Bissau and Yakuts people of northeastern Siberia.[35][36] It arose around 11000 years ago and has polymorphisms in 12618 16189 ( + U5b1 polymorphisms).
U5b1c has polymorphisms in 5656 15191, 16189, 16311 ( + U5b1 polymorphisms) and arose about 13,000 years ago. U5b1d has polymorphisms in 5437 5656 and has lost its polymorphism in 16192 (backmutation) ( + U5b1 polymorphism

U5 is rarer in South Caucasus (3.5%), Iran (3%), Turkey (3%), Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Egypt (all around 1.5%). It is only found at trace frequencies (<1%) in Jordan and the Arabian peninsula. In North Africa, U5 peaks in Morocco (4%), followed by Libya (3.5%), Tunisia and Algeria (both 2%).

). "The Complex and Diversified Mitochondrial Gene Pool of Berber Populations" - C. Coudray; A. Olivieri;


Not to mention that Siwa Berbers whom the oldest form of U5 is found, have a genetic pull towards black Africans;



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These two mummy brothers showed M1a1 mtdna. There is debate over the origins of the M hapologroup. Is it African or Asian?
There is no question that they were black Eurocentrics know that they lost this debate decades ago, and as C.A. Diop warned in his the new game is genotype. The assignments of "Asian" or "African" are bogus, and many people are starting to that out. This little game is about to come to an end.

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Old 04-12-2020, 03:42 PM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thTpqwVVwzk
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Old 04-12-2020, 04:16 PM
 
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Skin began to lighten from black even in Africa. White skin according to a new THEORY, may be 8000 years old. Taht is still well before dynastic Egypt.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015...ved-white-skin

Nowhere in any research does it say that there was only black skin before modern whites evolved. You made that up entirely.

So you are quite wrong again Asante/Sir Shawn/Unbreakable
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Old 04-12-2020, 04:17 PM
 
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Just making up things as we go? lol
It's well-known that individuals serving the type of narrative you brought up here say talk about "Africa" and "Africans" when the only thing they care about is emphasizing "Black" (also called "congoid")people achievements in history, true or alleged. They address history from a racial perspective, and they are free to make all the claims they wish to but they should do it with an ounce of intellectual integrity. They should be honest enough about their real intentions and confess that they point of view is Congoid, and not pretending to be African, since an important part of Africans do not belong to the Congoid race.
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Old 04-12-2020, 07:06 PM
 
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They should be honest enough about their real intentions and confess that they point of view is Congoid, and not pretending to be African, since an important part of Africans do not belong to the Congoid race.
"Congloid" Stop making up words. No one on Earth identifies as "Congloid". The only people indigenous to the Congo/Central Africa are the Twa (who were renamed "pygmies" by Europeans"). Unless you can point out a fallacy then your implications of are unwarranted.
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Old 04-12-2020, 07:49 PM
 
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Rain King,

This video maker says that e1b1a has a Eurasian/Caucasian origin.

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Old 04-12-2020, 07:50 PM
 
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"Congloid" Stop making up words. No one on Earth identifies as "Congloid". The only people indigenous to the Congo/Central Africa are the Twa (who were renamed "pygmies" by Europeans"). Unless you can point out a fallacy then your implications of are unwarranted.
I didn't make up anything. It's the first term used to refer to "Black" people before those 2 were deemed as unacceptable and replaced with "African". Except many Africans aren't Black, and many Blacks aren't African. Same thing for "Hispanic/Latino", "European", 'Asian" are nothing more than euphemisms intended to talk about race using geographical terms.

Congoid
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