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Old 04-30-2020, 10:59 PM
 
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Then what exactly is Ramses III DNA?
Nobody really knows. In fact, nobody really knows if it is even extractable.


Ancient DNA: Curse of the Pharaoh's DNA : Nature News
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Old 04-30-2020, 11:27 PM
 
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I've read where some black Americans have gotten their DNA results from 23andMe telling them that they share the same e1b1a as Ramses III.

Example:

https://www.postandcourier.com/news/...c075593f4.html

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Old 05-01-2020, 07:01 AM
 
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Didn't Zahi Hawass find that Ramses III was e1b1a?
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Old 05-01-2020, 11:41 PM
 
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I've read where some black Americans have gotten their DNA results from 23andMe telling them that they share the same e1b1a as Ramses III.

Example:

https://www.postandcourier.com/news/...c075593f4.html
I am not sure what you think this proves. The point is that DNA tribes based its work off of falsified JAMA results. I have cited the sources for you.

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Didn't Zahi Hawass find that Ramses III was e1b1a?
Not that I have ever seen.
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Old 05-02-2020, 02:36 AM
 
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I am not sure what you think this proves. The point is that DNA tribes based its work off of falsified JAMA results. I have cited the sources for you.



Not that I have ever seen.
Isn't 23andMe a credible DNA company? Why would they be telling people that they share the same DNA as Ramses III? I would think that they would know if those e1b1a results were questionable for Ramses III. Is 23andMe operating on mis-information?

I mentioned Zahi Hawass because I've seen where various people have said that he had DNA testing done on Ramses III in 2012 and his people found him to be e1b1a.
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Old 05-07-2020, 06:04 PM
 
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Isn't 23andMe a credible DNA company? Why would they be telling people that they share the same DNA as Ramses III? I would think that they would know if those e1b1a results were questionable for Ramses III. Is 23andMe operating on mis-information?

I mentioned Zahi Hawass because I've seen where various people have said that he had DNA testing done on Ramses III in 2012 and his people found him to be e1b1a.
Again, DNA pay for result companies don't test Egyptian mummies. I have not heard anything about 23andme, but I am guessing that they are also basing their analysis on the JAMA tests. I have heard nothing about Hawass.

Do you have sources for any of this? I mean, I just googled "23andme Ramesses DNA test" and all that came up was advertisements for their kits, so I do not believe that anything like this ever happened.

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Yeah, they were using the JAMA results, and again, did no independent testing. Here is an answer from Quara:

23andme is a commercial company that benefit from such advertising ,
His paternal lineage is disputed because they used bad technology ( that depends on guessing ) and thus provided insufficient data that didn’t give probable lineage ,
an independent geneticist used newer tools to determine his Paternal lineage and found that he belonged instead to E1b1b which is native north african lineage,
K = 14 admixture analysis of ancient Egyptian genomes


I, by the way, would have to see details of that before I would believe it.
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Old 05-08-2020, 12:39 AM
 
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This mentions the DNA test done on Ramses III by Zahi Hawass in 2012. I don't see where a hapologroup was mentioned.


Mystery of Ramses III's death unravelled - Ancient Egypt - Heritage - Ahram Online
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Old 05-08-2020, 05:20 PM
 
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This mentions the DNA test done on Ramses III by Zahi Hawass in 2012. I don't see where a hapologroup was mentioned.


Mystery of Ramses III's death unravelled - Ancient Egypt - Heritage - Ahram Online
Well thanks for that, but yeah, where is the result?
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Old 05-17-2020, 10:49 PM
 
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Racists interiors know they never built anything in africa. Stop explaining real history to people who still claim colombus as the founder of America
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Old 05-19-2020, 12:37 PM
 
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Racists interiors know they never built anything in africa. Stop explaining real history to people who still claim colombus as the founder of America

Yeah some people here I've noticed are clearly tasked with antagonizing black people through low ball implications of black inferiority through a Eurocentric and blatantly white supremacist interpretation of history. I see these types over on anthro-forums weaponizing and racializing genetic research for the purpose of mystifying ancient racial history. People from the caves are trying to claim to have built civilizations, but cannot find any civilization in the caves where they are from.
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