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Old 08-02-2021, 11:48 AM
 
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Cape Independence and shared California values:


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Old 08-05-2021, 11:45 AM
 
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No, don't share CA values!
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Old 08-06-2021, 06:19 PM
 
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You didn't answer my question about how far people can be from their indigenous lands before you deem them to be not indigenous.
It doesn’t work this way, as we would be incurring in the continuum fallacy -> [The continuum fallacy causes] one to erroneously reject a vague claim simply because it is not as precise as one would like it to be. Vagueness alone does not necessarily imply invalidity. The fallacy is the argument that two states or conditions cannot be considered distinct (or do not exist at all) because between them there exists a continuum of states.

There is concrete evidence of past habitation of different ethnic group in definite areas/spots, and then increasingly unclear, dubious or second-hand evidence of possible habitation the more we go to the periphery of them, until there is none, and we can draw maps from this knowledge. It doesn’t mean the actual range is precisely known or defined, it doesn’t mean it can be extended indefinitely throughout the whole landmass either.

The continuum fallacy appears very frequently when we talk about the historical range of ethnic groups because it combines three elements that generally can’t be solidly demarcated: a temporal marker, a spatial marker and a cultural marker (i.e. dialect continuum).
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Old 08-07-2021, 12:53 PM
 
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Is the Western Cape financially supporting the rest of the country?
No! In fact, Gauteng and the Johannesburg & Pretoria areas have higher per capita GDP than the Western Cape. The Western Cape independence movement is rooted in racial and political polarization rather than economics.
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Old 08-07-2021, 02:30 PM
 
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No! In fact, Gauteng and the Johannesburg & Pretoria areas have higher per capita GDP than the Western Cape. The Western Cape independence movement is rooted in racial and political polarization rather than economics.
Exactly! Sorry Afrikaners/Englishmen. You had the entire country for 400 years. You are not getting a second shot at taking over any part of the country now. Time to push off to England/Australia/NZ or wherever the heck you want to go.

You know what? time to return the favor. Remember those horrible "bantustans" they tried to push black Africans into? Give them that. Either that or back to Europe.
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Old 08-07-2021, 03:29 PM
 
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Exactly! Sorry Afrikaners/Englishmen. You had the entire country for 400 years. You are not getting a second shot at taking over any part of the country now. Time to push off to England/Australia/NZ or wherever the heck you want to go.

You know what? time to return the favor. Remember those horrible "bantustans" they tried to push black Africans into? Give them that. Either that or back to Europe.
Please don't misconstrue what I said. It is not an anti-white statement by any stretch. A lot of the Western Cape independence movement is also rooted in Coloured (mixed race) resentment as well, in addition to white resentment. There are more than twice as many white South Africans in Gauteng as the Western Cape, and whites and minorities still make more money and have more wealth than black Africans. The Western Cape is the only province that is majority-minority, and it is the only province governed by the center-right liberal Democratic Alliance. Its distinctiveness is rooted in race and politics.
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Old 08-08-2021, 11:50 AM
 
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Exactly! Sorry Afrikaners/Englishmen. You had the entire country for 400 years. You are not getting a second shot at taking over any part of the country now. Time to push off to England/Australia/NZ or wherever the heck you want to go.

You know what? time to return the favor. Remember those horrible "bantustans" they tried to push black Africans into? Give them that. Either that or back to Europe.
Would South Africa be better off if all the whites left and took their money with them?
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Old 08-08-2021, 01:29 PM
 
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Would South Africa be better off if all the whites left and took their money with them?
It's not possible for all the whites to leave and take their money with them. How dumb do you think the government of South Africa is? South Africa is a free economy, but still has very strong controls regarding the expatriation of monies. The country was also highly successful in the '90s with the repatriation of off-shored funds, exiled people, and whites who had left during the violence of the '80s. Further, a majority of whites don't have another nationality. Dual and triple nationality is very much a feature of Anglo-African culture than the majority Afrikaans culture.
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Old 08-08-2021, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Would South Africa be better off if all the whites left and took their money with them?
South Africa was prosperous in the past (for some residents) because of strong economic ties to rich Western countries.

If the whites left (or they got kicked out), then most if not all Western countries would impose formal or informal economic sanctions on South Africa.

The global economy is controlled by the Western temperate forest civilizations (North America & Europe) and the Eastern temperate forest civilizations (Northeast Asia).

Without ecomonic ties to those regions, it's pretty much impossible to have prosperity.

If South Africa got sanctioned by the West then they would be at the mercy of Northeast Asia (mainly China) for economic development.
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Old 08-09-2021, 11:37 AM
 
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No, don't share CA values!
Explain.
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