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Old 11-22-2021, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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Amidst Global Crises, US should honor its commitment to Diversity:


https://robertstark.substack.com/p/a...s-should-honor


"Beside the rise of racism, the one party ANC regime in South Africa has failed to maintain a cohesive and tolerant nation and there are concerns that the nation is on the brink of civil war. With the potential for a humanitarian catastrophe, there has been a massive interest in people looking to leave and the US must look into fast-tracking visas for minorities from South Africa who are facing racism."
Why should the US take all those people, just because they are white?
Their forbearers are not from here. What about the UK and Holland?
“US honor its Commitment to diversity”..... whose liberal fantasy is that? Some poet in the 19th century?
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Old 11-22-2021, 09:38 AM
 
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Who the H is Robert Stark?! Bringing in foreign workers to displace Americans has never been kosher. There was the Tyson Chicken processing plant scandal, when the employer sent buses to Mexico, to bring in workers, because they didn't want to pay a fair wage and benefits to their long-time American workers. There was the Disney scandal, when Disney brought in H1B techies from South Asia to replace American workers that had become "too expensive". Apparently it's cheaper to support displaced Americans via unemployment, than to have them earning a salary or wage. If Stark is anti-Labor, he should say so, instead of accusing people who support American workers of being "downright Trumpian", and "anti-immigration".

What a manipulative piece of garbage blog!

How so? Stark's article is mostly just calling out the hypocrisy of the racist New York Times.
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Old 11-22-2021, 09:39 AM
 
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Why should the US take all those people, just because they are white?
Their forbearers are not from here. What about the UK and Holland?
“US honor its Commitment to diversity”..... whose liberal fantasy is that? Some poet in the 19th century?
The US White population is rapidly dwindling.
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Old 11-22-2021, 02:27 PM
 
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The US White population is rapidly dwindling.
So what?
In several more generations we are all going to be brown.
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Old 11-23-2021, 03:00 PM
 
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So what?
In several more generations we are all going to be brown.
Explain? Sounds like Great Replacement Theory.
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Old 11-23-2021, 05:11 PM
 
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Mixed marriages/relationships.
It is happening all over the USA from what I’ve seen over the past 50 years.
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Old 11-24-2021, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Somewhere on the Moon.
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Since the Chinese are not White .They are not thought of as a Colonial Power so they are a good thing.
For now, just wait. Oh, they will never be seen as white, but the whole colonial power thing... w-a-i-t because it's coming whether the Chinese are ready or not.
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Old 11-24-2021, 03:43 PM
 
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Mixed marriages/relationships.
It is happening all over the USA from what I’ve seen over the past 50 years.
Nothing wrong with that (or with keeping whites or blacks or whatever as they are, as long that it's natural and not part of some social engineering experiment from the government, that last part is worthy of a cringe just to think about it.) What could be wrong is if mixed people show preference for one of their origins more than other, especially if they don't have any origin that is greater than half of anything. Mixed people should be as proud (and ashamed) of every bit that they are, nothing more and nothing less.

Knowing that the US has this identity politics going on and every year the population gets more politically polarized, the notion of mixed people feeling good about everything that they are may remain just a notion for a while. Who knows, maybe things are changing, but...

In anycase, identity politics doesn't seem to contaminate much of Sub-Saharan Africa (yet?) and that's a good thing. The US would do itself a good deed if it moves away from that too.

South Africa appears to be a place in Sub-Saharan Africa where there is some identity politics, though I'm not sure. In this forum it definitely seems that way, but that could be a reflection from the fact that almost everyone that participates here are Americans or live (lived) in the USA. Not sure.
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Old 11-25-2021, 07:56 AM
 
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Forgot to add the following regarding my previous post.

Some people tend to not know the difference between a mixed population and a replaced population. Often they think that if a population is homogenous and then, through immigration or birth rate differences between native population groups, it becomes homogenous and then mixed; that somehow that means a mixed majority in the future means replacement. That is not true at all.

Replacement is if ine homogenous group replaces another because there is little to no heritage linkages between the two groups. With a mixed this is different. Asthe nature of the mixed is to have multiple heritages in sizable quantities, rather than replacing the original homogenous population they are a continuation, but more mixed and that's all. Mixed people inherit the customs, beliefs, traditions, etc of all their heritages, including from the homogenous population of the past. It will be a little different, because the traditions from the other heritages will be added too or will become general whereas before it was limited to a minority. But overall, it's basically a continuation of the lrevious homogenous population, just more mixed. Now, if the local population is replaced with another population that has no ancestral lineages to the local ones, that is replacement to the full degree and, IMO, completely wrong and should be avoided.

Other than identity politics which must be dealt with IMO, countries like the USA truly have nothing to worry about its future. The same applies, though to a lesser degree, to South Africa. In either case, identity politics need to be eliminated in both places. This is nothing more than taking advatage of mixed people by forcing them to "choose" one side over another when in reality they are from both (or more) sides at once. They see the people from the past and all of them are their an ancestors so to speak, very differemt from a replaced population which their ancestors isn't every group from the past (majority or minorities).
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Old 11-30-2021, 01:25 PM
 
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Mixed marriages/relationships.
It is happening all over the USA from what I’ve seen over the past 50 years.
Americans seem to be embracing enclavism:

https://robertstark.substack.com/p/c...-pan-enclavism
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