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Old 12-31-2022, 12:51 PM
 
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I would also say older millennials like me will eschew this, too. We started using computers young but it was a floppy disk and DOS prompts. I had my own first computer when I entered college in 2001. But online classes weren’t really a thing yet, it was mostly for writing papers and registering for classes. Contrast that with now where I both work and go to school online (second bachelors).

Smart phones weren’t a thing…I got a brick cell phone for emergencies when I started driving. A flip phone with old school texting around the time I got married. Smart phones didn’t come out till I was maybe 25.

My point is that those of us who remember a life where we weren’t attached to tech at the hip (and didn’t have parents modeling such) are not inclined to just turn life over to computers. I’m working hard to teach my kids that tech is a tool and not the end all/be all of our way of life. A world that is even less personal than it is now, but with big tech knowing everything and tracking our every tiny move in daily life, it’s not a world I want.
Yes, that was long ago in the Tech world.

Myself remembers the days of pay phones only and the hand held calculator was the modern thing. a
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Old 12-31-2022, 12:52 PM
 
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I have my doubts on AI replacing everything, but:

Our current socio-economic paradigm does not fit with dramatically labor-reducing technology as such. It is less likely to benefit all, and more likely as another capital tool for capitalists to use to further the wealth divide, IMHO up to a point as massive wealth inequality is unsustainable. They then either have to keep us in line to prevent a revolution, or the whole system gets overthrown for better or worse. The only way it can work is if we all have a natural-born share in that capital/means of production, and we may or may not have to control the population as well. Sound like socialism? You betcha. Whether it's utopian or dystopian to you, doesn't matter. That's the only way I see working.

It obviously won't be that simple. AI still has a long, long way to go. It can be expensive, limited by finite natural resources, not as effective as claimed, mechanical failure can always happen etc. But theoretically, such advanced technology is bad news for society until we change the basic assumptions of our economic paradigm.
Completely agree.

Except theoretically I believe that given enough time and technological advancements, AI will be able to do everything.
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Old 12-31-2022, 12:58 PM
 
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Who is Al?
Artificial Intelligence (AI). Computer systems and robots who can perform work tasks faster, cheaper, and better than people. As technology progresses, more and more jobs will become automated through AI.
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Old 12-31-2022, 01:00 PM
 
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Tech will bring about one of two futures.

There is Star Trek where technology can do anything and as Trekkies may recall the episode of Next Generation where people from our time are cryo frozen and revived and they ask what are they too do now that money means nothing. Picard tells them the challenge is to "improve oneself".

The other future is Tech does everything for us and we become dumber and dumber as we sit around doing nothing but watching President Comacho entertain us while drinking Brawndo because it has Electrolytes.

Idiocracy vs Star Trek are our possible futures. Sadly I believe the idiots are well on the way to winning.
The idiots will always win.
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Old 12-31-2022, 01:01 PM
 
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I've been hearing robots (or in this case AI) will be replacing workers for decades. I remember hearing that in high school, and I'm in my 60s. Yes, we see AI in a lot of workplaces, but there is still the need for human interaction.
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Old 12-31-2022, 02:10 PM
 
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I've been hearing robots (or in this case AI) will be replacing workers for decades.
Well now it's actually true. They've done it. Just the beta version of Chat GPT that they released to the public can do 90% of tech jobs. Today.

College kids are already doing their assignments with it. You can generate a research paper on any topic, with citations.

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Yes, we see AI in a lot of workplaces, but there is still the need for human interaction.
Yes, but the amount of human interaction would be limited. Most jobs would still be obsolete.
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Old 12-31-2022, 02:19 PM
 
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I welcome AI. I like the idea of a robot doing all kinds of things for me and freeing up my time to do whatever I want.
Do what, though? It's going to be like being retired.

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I don't know if that world will come in our lifetimes though.
It's going to happen within 10 years. There's not going to be a job market.
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Old 12-31-2022, 02:26 PM
 
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Well now it's actually true. They've done it. Just the beta version of Chat GPT that they released to the public can do 90% of tech jobs. Today.

College kids are already doing their assignments with it. You can generate a research paper on any topic, with citations.



Yes, but the amount of human interaction would be limited. Most jobs would still be obsolete.
College kids will be booted pretty quickly if found out. There’s AI for plagiarism already, too.

But can you expand on what you believe will be left for humans? I don’t understand a goal of eliminating all jobs. How are humans to make money to live?
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Old 12-31-2022, 02:26 PM
 
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Check out ChatGPT.

https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt/

What are people going to do?
Let's see AI run a public utility.
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Old 12-31-2022, 02:33 PM
 
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College kids will be booted pretty quickly if found out. There’s AI for plagiarism already, too.

But can you expand on what you believe will be left for humans? I don’t understand a goal of eliminating all jobs. How are humans to make money to live?
Therein lies the problem. Nobody can fathom anything beyond an employment-based economic distribution system where you don't sell your labor. It requires a paradigm shift. It would likely look like democratic socialism, in the most literal sense. All individuals having stake in the means of production. Like you, I'm not entirely sure what the specific mechanisms would be.

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Let's see AI run a public utility.
What do you mean by this?
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