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Old 02-01-2023, 10:30 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Old 03-18-2023, 06:36 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Maybe off topic but George Santos, almost a human AI Bot, got elected to Congress. This shows how little importance substance and genuine-ness have.
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Old 03-18-2023, 07:42 AM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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The tests are all multiple guess exams relying on rote memory rather than any inciteful analysis, so, for a bot taking the exam it's essetianlly an open book exam. I should think they would score a 100%, limited only by the completeness of the memory bank of the machine.

The trend over the last several decades is to legally force docs to practice according to the "best practices" recipe books written by academic committees of docs who rarely ever actually see pts, so your doc is now essentially practicing like a bot anyway.

I haven't gotten involved in the thread here about "punishing underperforming docs" but it boils down to this-- BO-Care forces docs to use use computerized records, not to improve efficiency as they claim, but to make it easy to monitor docs' practice habits.......Eg- any doc now who does not prescribe a statin, for instance, to anybody who has any chol at all in their blood is deemed incomptetent and could be penalized...

They are not measuring competance. They are measuring compliance with the agenda.
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Old 03-29-2023, 06:56 PM
 
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welcome to your new co-pay doctor.

Medi-Bot soon to follow.
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Old 04-02-2023, 03:35 PM
 
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Implications? When was the last time you visited ER? ERs are now used as urgent care as seeing a doctor takes forever.

Implications? Faster care via online or via walk in booths with basic diagnostic equipment. Quality will be, mostly, the same, as seeing a live doctor.

Zoomcare.
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Old 07-21-2023, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque
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The implications of the AI bot being able (barely) to pass the medical exam actually implies that doctors are not trained to think, just spout memorized information from medical texts they are required to read. That AI is not really intelligent yet, it is an algorithm that has a huge database to search and can do it very fast, so as to seem like it knows something. We don't have real AI yet.
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Old 07-22-2023, 02:26 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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The implications of the AI bot being able (barely) to pass the medical exam actually implies that doctors are not trained to think, just spout memorized information from medical texts they are required to read. That AI is not really intelligent yet, it is an algorithm that has a huge database to search and can do it very fast, so as to seem like it knows something. We don't have real AI yet.
What about the AI bot that wrote a brief and invented case law? See Lawyers blame chatbot for court gaffe. Spoiler alert; the lawyer got sanctioned and no doubt State and Federal grievance committees will express some interest.
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Old 07-26-2023, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque
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What about the AI bot that wrote a brief and invented case law? See Lawyers blame chatbot for court gaffe. Spoiler alert; the lawyer got sanctioned and no doubt State and Federal grievance committees will express some interest.
Same thing. Attorneys have to do a lot of research on their cases looking for precedents and the actual laws, judges should be doing the same thing. The bot is not actually AI (Artificial intellignece) it is an algorithm with access to a huge database that includes grammar and the vocabulary of legalese. It is impressive but it is not AI, it is a bot and a bot simulates as best it can human interaction, but that is based on algorithms and people write those. If they don't account for a certain possible interaction the bot has no way to respond correctly and it does not really learn, like Siri or Alexa or Cortana, they are just recording you and analyzing your responses to their responses. They are just search engines able to interpret speach, but they are not AI.
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Old 07-26-2023, 03:49 PM
 
Location: california
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If I had the resources I would build a program for the computer to be one's own doctor, doing one's own diagnosis.
Programs already exist for surgeries to be done via drone/robotic so there is little reason for a living doctor to be guessing his way around your body.
I don't trust modern medicine seeing they make money on you being sick, not well.
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Old 07-28-2023, 08:22 PM
 
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The implications of the AI bot being able (barely) to pass the medical exam actually implies that doctors are not trained to think, just spout memorized information from medical texts they are required to read. That AI is not really intelligent yet, it is an algorithm that has a huge database to search and can do it very fast, so as to seem like it knows something. We don't have real AI yet.
Which medical school and residency did you graduate? If it's so easy why does ~1 native born American in 400 actually do it?

I've watched and paid for both of my kids to go to medical school. The serial claim that it's all about memorization and little else is severely myopic at best.

A human cannot memorize his/her way through undergrad O Chem I let alone medical school, let alone state and specialty boards. For crying out loud part of USMLE testing is a stand up live action Q&A.
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