Akron/Canton area (Cleveland, Warren: rent, suburbs, friendly) - Akron - Canton - Ohio (OH) - Page 3 - City-Data Forum

Porkchopper · 03-24-2010, 10:18 AM

How I use this site, and the age of the posts I choose to comment on are irrelevant. I am happy to be gone, which has absolutely no bearing on whether or not I'm allowed to express my opinion.

I don't need attention, and I don't have an obsession with the area - that's not why I'm posting here. I'm posting here because this, and similar threads seem to be nothing more than a "Northeast Ohio's a Great Place to live" circle jerk, with no one willing to paint an accurate picture of the many long-term problems the area has. Mattalli, since you appear to be concerned about the substance of the information I'm posting, please address the actual issues I've commented on, instead of attacking the commenter or questioning the motives. If you don't agree that NE Ohio has the profound problems I've accused it of, then offer an explanation as to what I'm wrong about and why.

captaincatfish · 03-25-2010, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Porkchopper

How I use this site, and the age of the posts I choose to comment on are irrelevant. I am happy to be gone, which has absolutely no bearing on whether or not I'm allowed to express my opinion.

I don't need attention, and I don't have an obsession with the area - that's not why I'm posting here. I'm posting here because this, and similar threads seem to be nothing more than a "Northeast Ohio's a Great Place to live" circle jerk, with no one willing to paint an accurate picture of the many long-term problems the area has. Mattalli, since you appear to be concerned about the substance of the information I'm posting, please address the actual issues I've commented on, instead of attacking the commenter or questioning the motives. If you don't agree that NE Ohio has the profound problems I've accused it of, then offer an explanation as to what I'm wrong about and why.

Porkchopper, note first that 'I ain't mad atcha', and that you make a valid point...my old home area (NE Ohio) does have problems...I lived in Cleveland and Cleveland Heights for the majority of my life, until 2005, when I moved to Middletown to be near my now-wife...

I've visited Cleveland a few times since then, and I won't lie or sugarcoat---I saw some things that utterly broke my heart...neighborhoods where I once spent the days of my youth, now filled with abandoned houses, dirt and trash...streets neglected...people looking fearful...you get the picture

But on the other side of the coin, in both Cleveland and the Akron-Canton area, there are signs of life...people are 'reverse-migrating', buying homes, fixing them up and settling in...people are starting to spend time working in their yards, shopping, dining, playing with their kids...and they're not letting somebody's list in a magazine, or negative word-of-mouth from those who've 'escaped', deter them...

My point to you, then, is this...you did leve the area, for reasons known best to you...and you had EVERY RIGHT to do this---folks do it every day, not just here, but across the country...we understand fully that you didn't like it here, and that you're glad to be gone...but don't use that glee as a platform to say people are 'smoking crack' when they have anything positive to say about the area...that's THEIR opinion and perspective, and they're entitled to it, just as you are entitled to speak YOUR mind...just sayin'

htlong · 03-26-2010, 05:59 AM

I moved from Akron in the 80's when the rust belt first became apparent.
our city leaders haven't really done anything other than globe trotting under the guise of recruiting jobs here,which bottom line I feel was just a vacation at the tax payers expense (check out their charge cards for meals and lodging (no motel 6 for these high rollers)

Akron's leaders have done much for their cronies such as buying fixing properties and selling property at a huge loss to taxpayers to their friends.
In my opinion the only citizens who have done well in Akron are the upper level city employees (that is what they are employees)

I have since retired and have moved back to the area because I feel the Akron area has the nicest people in America not the smartest people but the nicest.

get smart Akron fire everyone of your civic leaders,get their hand out of your wallet ! but this is Akron if its a Democrat we have to vote for them.......guys the Dem's. have allowed the unions to leave,your fathers system wont work anymore,but..... you keep electing a band of thieves!.......but as usual I may be wrong....you want them you got them.........I made sure to move outside of the city limits and now they are reaching out here under the guise of JEDD

SquareBetterThanAll · 03-26-2010, 08:03 PM

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People are leaving Ohio in droves and the population of Canton, and Ohio have both steadily declined for the last two decades. No jobs. No industry. No political leadership.

The population of Ohio growth has never been in the negative, so I'm not sure what you're talking about, and Stark County has only shown negative growth between 1980 and 1990.

And while most of the city of Canton could definitely fair better economically, like many cities, the suburbs are still in fairly good shape with excellent schools, low crime, etc.

So if you're going to accuse people of smoking crack you could at least make points that aren't false.

Feel free to check my stats.

PhillytoCincy · 04-01-2010, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SquareBetterThanAll

The population of Ohio growth has never been in the negative, so I'm not sure what you're talking about, and Stark County has only shown negative growth between 1980 and 1990.

And while most of the city of Canton could definitely fair better economically, like many cities, the suburbs are still in fairly good shape with excellent schools, low crime, etc.

So if you're going to accuse people of smoking crack you could at least make points that aren't false.

Feel free to check my stats.

Very true. This is another case of people taking their perceptions/opinions and trying to turn them into facts. If you look at the census bureau, Ohio has yet to loose population in any census. Whether is be an official tally, or an estimate. Akron/Canton experiences ups and downs in the population, but both are doing fairly well. Both cities are nice and livable. Give it a few years, and I think you will start seeing more growth than decline.

BuckeyezRule · 04-04-2010, 01:42 AM

I so hope it grows. I'm an optimist. =) I love & miss Ohio. I'm very happy now here in Utah, but I miss alot about Ohio. FWIW, I grew up & lived in a 'bad' area of Akron, & my parents still live there, aka, Kenmore, & have never felt 'scared' to live there, or visit there, & I'm not a fighter/wimp. lol

PhillytoCincy · 04-05-2010, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckeyezRule

I so hope it grows. I'm an optimist. =) I love & miss Ohio. I'm very happy now here in Utah, but I miss alot about Ohio. FWIW, I grew up & lived in a 'bad' area of Akron, & my parents still live there, aka, Kenmore, & have never felt 'scared' to live there, or visit there, & I'm not a fighter/wimp. lol

Utah is a great state. Probaly the only state outside of New Mexico (I know a lot of poverty there, but beautiful state) that I would live in out west. Wish you the best of luck out there.

BTW, its great to be an optimist.

UntamedOhioan · 04-10-2010, 11:27 PM

I grew up in Warren and it was... well, I can't say I'm sad to be getting out in a few months for college. BUT... it was an interesting place to grow up and live around. The whole city has a very "retro" feel, like it is stuck in the 80's. It's hard to describe, you'd have to experience it. The suburbs of Warren are nice (Howland). Its also oddly liberal- there are like 5 gay bars & one of the council members is an avowed communist. People always love to return here from out-of-town because nothing has really changed since twenty years ago-- well, except for some parts becoming run down which is sad.

Akron is a lot more happening and larger. It has a definitive "city" feel, is only 45 minutes from Cleveland, and is incredibly diverse.

Both are good choices, though Akron has an edge.

edit: woah, 2006? Really? Who's the necrophiliac?

wendydeneen · 05-25-2010, 06:28 PM

I say to look more in the suburbs of Akron. The city itself...more Akron looks like it turned into rental properties. You can tell by the school ratings what areas to live in. That's how we always based our moves by. It's really paid off too! Look for the better schools and you can't go wrong! Ohio ranks schools check out, [url=http://www.psk12.com/rating/USindexphp/STATE_OH_Ads_AdWords.html]Ohio Public School Rankings[/url]

wendydeneen · 05-25-2010, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckeyezRule

I so hope it grows. I'm an optimist. =) I love & miss Ohio. I'm very happy now here in Utah, but I miss alot about Ohio. FWIW, I grew up & lived in a 'bad' area of Akron, & my parents still live there, aka, Kenmore, & have never felt 'scared' to live there, or visit there, & I'm not a fighter/wimp. lol

I did my early years of growing up in Kenmore!! NEVER again...I'd RENT my my whole life. It was scary and we had two break- ins. Parents were fed up and went to suburbs. Where you didn't have to lock the doors in daylight!!