[OldBankhead]

Originally Posted by Surge0001

85k was referring to the bayway

OMG. Can you literally not see where I quoted you saying the bayway "beats out" MJ with its 85k daily traffic?

[Surge0001]

Originally Posted by MardiGras251

We are definitely in a position to make Alabama grow tremendously in every metro. The Interesting part about this matter is that bham needed i59/20 Huntsville needs 565 Nd Mobile needs the bayway Nd widened of i10 East and west. Aldot really needs to get the ball rolling can’t they see we are trying to grow a state here. Man a lottery/casino sure would have been nice for the state. Ppl will literally GIVE the state money to have the CHANCE to win more money. Basically us helping pay for the roads and bridges but Alabama would rather just TAKE the money with taxes and apparently it’s still not enough. Lol beats me.

Very true, wish we had a more function DOT and more common sense from the legislatures

[Surge0001]

Originally Posted by OldBankhead

OMG. Can you literally not see where I quoted you saying the bayway "beats out" MG with 85k daily ttaffic?

Can you literally not see where I have been talking about cars per lane per day?

[OldBankhead]

Oh okay, lols. Your argument has been cyrstal clear and concise from the beginning. My bad.

[Surge0001]

Originally Posted by OldBankhead

Oh okay, lols. Your argument has been cyrstal clear and concise from the beginning. My bad.

Look man, I can't help you couldn't follow a clear argument, sorry I didn't repeat the same equation over and over for you in order to understand

[MardiGras251]

Originally Posted by Surge0001

Very true, wish we had a more function DOT and more common sense from the legislatures

Being the buckle of the Bible Belt the most Alabama thing to do for change to come about is to pray about it.

Lol Iight that’s it I’m gone for the day I have a jet engine to work on ciao

[RocketDawg]

Question: Are the traffic counts shown on the ALDOT maps the sum of vehicles in both directions, or in each direction (e.g., for I-65, are the counts shown a sum of northbound and southbound, or just one or the other)?

https://aldotgis.dot.state.al.us/TDMPublic/

[Surge0001]

Originally Posted by RocketDawg

Question: Are the traffic counts shown on the ALDOT maps the sum of vehicles in both directions, or in each direction (e.g., for I-65, are the counts shown a sum of northbound and southbound, or just one or the other)?

https://aldotgis.dot.state.al.us/TDMPublic/

One Direction

[RocketDawg]

Originally Posted by David1502

Actually, the reason that the I-65 designation sign changed is because I-565 was opened and with that there was an actual U.S. Interstate Highway which traversed Huntsville. Up until that time, Decatur was the larger city which was on an Interstate.

Another point is that Morgan County doesn't really get to decide whether or not they are part of the Huntsville Metro Area, the Census Bureau does and their criteria is that at least 25% of the work force has to commute into the main city/county of the Metro Area. Huntsville doesn't have a large downtown with a lot of service sector jobs like you see in larger cities, so as a result there isn't a large commute from Decatur to offices. Decatur actually has a large jobs base with all of the industry along the Tennessee River - In fact, there are a large number of workers who commute from Limestone and Madison County to Decatur. I know that on the far west side of Madison (along County Line Rd.) there are a good number who commute to work in Decatur. A visible example, is the Limestone Creek Apartments off I-565 at the Mooresville Rd. Exit. It was built for those who work in Decatur but wanted closer proximity to restaurants, and retail in Madison/Huntsville.

What is surprising is that with all of the growth in jobs in Decatur, there has been very little population growth in the City of Decatur. It seems that the City Council of Decatur recognizes this as they just authorized spending $8 million to improve the streetscape of 6th Avenue as you enter the City from the Tennessee River Bridge. They are hoping that the business owners will respond and improve the appearance of their respective businesses. At the present time, 6ht Avenue could really use a face lift as it seems dated. Perhaps, this will lead to population growth in Decatur.

Corrcect about the signage. Scroll down here to "Control Cities": https://www.bhamwiki.com/w/Interstate_65

Regarding metro definition - it's my understanding that it's not totally quantitative and that local preference does play a role. I suspect that's in cases of very marginal differences, such as maybe 23% of the workforce commutes in (that's just an example). Regardless, federal workers, about 20% of the local workforce, are not counted in commuting patterns, according to the second paragraph in link below. The reasoning is to protect individuals home addresses. That may be changing - depends on whether the document in the link actually went any further. There are a LOT of workers who drive in from Morgan County every day (under non-Covid conditions). I know that because I worked on the Arsenal for many years. And watching backed up traffic on 565 in the mornings and afternoons supports that.

Regional Commuter Study – Huntsville Area Metropolitan Planning Organization

[AnsleyPark]

Given the nutty traffic down here on the coast, I'll be fine and dandy if Orange Beach and Gulf Shores do not grow. Just try going to Publix on a Friday afternoon!