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Old 05-17-2011, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Oregon
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My wife and I are planning on driving up this summer with most of our belongings. I am leaving my rifles down here because they are better for deer than moose and bear, but I do want to bring my 9mm. I've heard Canada will not let you in with a gun. Are there any exceptions? Is there paperwork I can fill out to get permission?
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Old 05-17-2011, 03:01 PM
 
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My wife and I are planning on driving up this summer with most of our belongings. I am leaving my rifles down here because they are better for deer than moose and bear, but I do want to bring my 9mm. I've heard Canada will not let you in with a gun. Are there any exceptions? Is there paperwork I can fill out to get permission?
if you are an active police officer, CIA, or Federal Agent etc...you can get paperwork to fill out for approval....other than that NO...they will confiscated your handgun and can press charges against you..
A Practical Guide to Canada's Gun Laws for Americans (http://www.panda.com/canadaguns/ - broken link)

mail it to yourself in AK....you can do a C/O to your name an someone else's address...
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Old 05-17-2011, 03:36 PM
 
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if you are an active police officer, CIA, or Federal Agent etc...you can get paperwork to fill out for approval....other than that NO...they will confiscated your handgun and can press charges against you..
A Practical Guide to Canada's Gun Laws for Americans (http://www.panda.com/canadaguns/ - broken link)

mail it to yourself in AK....you can do a C/O to your name an someone else's address...
You have just given the most ignorant advice of anyone that has every posted anything on this forum.
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Old 05-17-2011, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Dangling from a mooses antlers
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My wife and I are planning on driving up this summer with most of our belongings. I am leaving my rifles down here because they are better for deer than moose and bear, but I do want to bring my 9mm. I've heard Canada will not let you in with a gun. Are there any exceptions? Is there paperwork I can fill out to get permission?

There are no practical exceptions. If you get caught with it you will face mandatory jail time in Canada. You only have two options. Ship it to yourself as airfreight on Alaska Airlines or take it to an FFL dealer in your state of residence and have them ship it to an FFL in Alaska.

Don't even think of trying to send a handgun to yourself through the US Postal Service. Long guns, as in rifle and shotguns are okay. Handguns aren't.

Port Angeles man arrested in Victoria over guns made “innocent mistake,” wife says; boat aground in Alaska -- Port Angeles Port Townsend Sequim Forks Jefferson County Clallam County Olympic Peninsula Daily NEWS
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Old 05-17-2011, 03:53 PM
 
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You have just given the most ignorant advice of anyone that has every posted anything on this forum.
Excuse me Mr Rude Sarcastic....there is a police officer on this forum who has filled out the paperwork and can cross with his handgun...Federal Marshals and certain others can cross with the proper paperwork, make a phone call is all it takes to confirm this! I do know of people who have shipped their handguns to themselves!
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Old 05-17-2011, 04:04 PM
 
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For the average American, you cannot bring a handgun into Canada. If you declare it at the border, it will be confiscated. If you say no and they find one, you will be arrested. Don't risk sneaking it in. You won't get robbed driving the Alcan, relax .
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Old 05-17-2011, 04:30 PM
 
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Excuse me Mr Rude Sarcastic....there is a police officer on this forum who has filled out the paperwork and can cross with his handgun...Federal Marshals and certain others can cross with the proper paperwork, make a phone call is all it takes to confirm this! I do know of people who have shipped their handguns to themselves!

Your lying, again.

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/f...visite-eng.htm


There are three classes of firearms in Canada:
  • Non-restricted (most common rifles and shotguns): These may generally be imported for purposes such as hunting, protection from wild animals in remote wilderness areas where firearms are allowed, or target-shooting. They may also be taken in transit through Canada by a reasonably direct route.
  • Restricted: (longer-barreled handguns, some types of long guns) These are allowed for certain purposes, such as target shooting at an approved club or range, but they are not allowed for hunting or self protection.
  • Prohibited: (shorter-barreled handguns, automatic weapons) These cannot be brought into Canada.
http://pe.usps.com/text/pub52/pub52c4_009.htm

432 Mailability

432.1 General


The following conditions apply:
  1. Pistols, revolvers, and other firearms capable of being concealed on the person (referred to as “handguns”) are nonmailable in the domestic mail, except as permitted in Exhibit 432.1 and DMM 601.11.1. The disassembled parts of a handgun or other type of nonmailable firearm that can be readily reassembled as a weapon are nonmailable, except as permitted in Exhibit 432.1 and DMM 601.11.1 or 601.11.2. Unloaded antique firearms sent as curios or museum pieces are generally permitted, as specified in Exhibit 432.1 and DMM 601.11.2.
  2. Unloaded rifles and shotguns may be mailed if the mailer fully complies with the Gun Control Act of 1968 (Public Law 90—618) and
    18 U.S.C. 921. The mailer may be required to establish, by opening the parcel or by written certification, that the gun is unloaded and not excluded from mailing because of the restrictions in 432.1b and c.

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Old 05-17-2011, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Manhattan Island
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Stiff, that article doesn't have anything to do with sending guns to yourself through the mail. That was about a guy who got into trouble crossing through Canadian waters with guns aboard his ship. She was talking about mailing them. I just don't see the relevance of that article.

One of the comments on there was interesting though. Posted by "Freshwater" on the comments section:
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Obviously he forgot about these guns, as Canadian law does allow transport of weapons across the border if properly declared and disassembled (as we did when hunting moose in BC)
Now I don't know much about this, but what I do know is that there seems to be quite a wide variety of differing opinions about Canadian policy regarding bringing guns across the border. I wonder if it has something to do with the fact that that person was hunting IN Canada, not passing through?
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Old 05-17-2011, 05:12 PM
 
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Now I don't know much about this, but what I do know is that there seems to be quite a wide variety of differing opinions about Canadian policy regarding bringing guns across the border. I wonder if it has something to do with the fact that that person was hunting IN Canada, not passing through?
Just read, don't comment or you're gonna look like a fool. There is no wide variety of differing opinions. Canada spells them out perfectly well.

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/i.../index-eng.htm
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Old 05-17-2011, 05:22 PM
 
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[quote=stiffnecked;19194332]Your lying, again.

Lying??? hahahaha I did copy most all of this as proof so look for the highlight area!
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    Cameras....No restrictions
    Film.......Reasonable amount
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[SIZE=2] Canada Customs' chief concern is to establish that you really are bringing the goods in for your personal use. If you are going to be carrying large amounts of consumable products, such as food or fuel, please contact a Canada Customs office before you begin your trip to determine what special measures you should take. [/SIZE]
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[SIZE=2] Handguns are classed as restricted firearms and may be imported only for use at approved shooting competitions. A Permit to Carry, which may be obtained from Canadian police agency, is required. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=2] Requests for a Permit to Transport restricted firearms (e.g. most handguns) through Canada to other parts of the U.S., including Alaska, or another country are normally denied. Visitors should discuss their options with Canada Customs & Revenue Agency customs officials before leaving for Canada. [/SIZE]
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