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Old 07-11-2011, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Bernalillo, NM
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Alaska was nicknamed the Last Frontier a long time ago and still holds the same allure. A certain segment of mankind is always looking for the new thing, seeking a future of exploration, discovery, re-invention of themselves, immersion in new places, etc. Alaska has been this way from the very beginning, back to the gold rush days. It attracts a wide spectrum of people, including those who:

- aren't happy where they are and see Alaska as a good place to flee real or imagiined troubles
- see limited opportunity to prosper where they are now (certainly an attraction currently given the recession conditions across the country)
- view Alaska as a place where they can be free of whatever restrictions society is placing on them in their current location
- believe Alaska is a place where they can more easily seek and attain their fortune (and fortune may be defined very differently by many)
- are looking for a simpler life and think Alaska offers this
- want a back to nature lifestyle
- believe living in Alaska will challenge themselves and help them grow to be the person they want to be

Many of these are the same reasons that the oldtimers came to Alaska in the 1890s. While lots of things have changed over the last 100+ years, the allure of Alaska as one of the last frontiers for modern American society remains.

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Old 07-11-2011, 11:26 AM
 
Location: PNW, CPSouth, JacksonHole, Southampton
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Wow, I thought Sity's posts in this thread were bad. Personally, Latin culture is one of the things I miss most since I moved here. And what's with your weird obsession with gay lumberjacks? I don't even know what to say about that, but it sure doesn't square with any version of reality I've ever come across.
Yes, Dear....except that I was answering the query in the Original Post: 'Why do people that (who) have never been to Alaska want to move to Alaska?'

I was describing their fantasies, and the Media distortions which led to the formation of those fantasies. It should have been abundantly clear that I was not describing the reality of Alaska.

Actually, I had a very rugged uncle....one of the ones who fled Mississippi about the time I was born (I'm the last one to flee the state). He was gorgeous...a football standout...packin' like a Clydesdale (I hear the old men back in our village who played Football with him are still talkin' about that thing)...straight A's in school...built like a Greek statue.... Married a big, giant, rugged, Swedish girl (We're Native Americans with Jewish Admixture. He looked like Elvis, but with muscles, so his choosing a blonde maybe was an indicator of his self-hate). They dreamed of moving to Alaska.

They loaded up the car and drove, drove, drove (and drove, drove, drove). Saw a lot of Filipinos, and turned that car around (this was the late 60s...and after the Ole Miss Riots and forced integration, he was determined to find a place where his medium-Olive self was the darkest thing around). Settled in Seattle (a white place, back then), rode Republicanism to positions of wealth and power....founded a 'dynasty'....built a rugged lodge of a palace....maybe in Issaquah....maybe in the San Juan Islands....maybe on Mercer Island (I'm not sayin')...all the while cloaking himself in "Mountain Man" imagery, and "Great Wilderness" philosophy (he and the wife actually worked their way through school, and became elite professionals).

But this elite professional was all about all the ruggedness and wilderness-loving that you could stomach. Total football fan...Republican Family Values proponent...who would take off and crawl around on frozen mountainsides, hunting bighorn Goats or something (who cares...except the poor Goats, who were probably less than amused) When they weren't in their Downtown Seattle Highrise offices, they were driving the rugged vehicles...and doing rugged this and rugged that....oy....

Well, he died, and it was discovered that he had written a Gay Erotic Novel, about rugged he-men out in the wilderness.

He was lucky enough to find a girl who didn't paint herself up like a hooker, or spend her life making trouble and being a leech. But most men don't find their own personal Calamity Jane, who makes her own millions, shoots her own Moose, chops her own firewood, and then goes and presides over the board meeting...in the building she owns (not near enough Swedes to go around). Instead, they settle for some slinky little trouble-making parasite in blue Eye Shadow, and spend the rest of their days fantasizing about getting away from her.

Mostly, the 'Moving to Alaska' thing is pure fantasy. I was describing the FANTASY and its roots.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_xmujSyxkU

And I know you're now wondering about me. I'm told this is me to a 'T
': http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fa5cpodqRY (Kanon, not the White Girl) (well, and I don't wear makeup...and I have way better jewelry)

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Old 07-11-2011, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Default Thin is not a curse... !!

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Wow, I thought Sity's posts in this thread were bad. Personally, Latin culture is one of the things I miss most since I moved here. And what's with your weird obsession with gay lumberjacks? I don't even know what to say about that, but it sure doesn't square with any version of reality I've ever come across.
I have hiked, camped and always spend my free time into nature and camping/ survival mode... I have carried around 120 pounds extra all my life and now have worked out hard and lost an entire person in the process... I am more fit and ready for living in an environment that can challenge me and NO not looking for 3 men to everywoman.. I totally agree with you Tigre... what is her obsession with gay lumberjacks?? to each their own life style and I can certainly live on my own in the wilderness... I have done survival camping for 3 weeks straight and know what I will be in for... don't every assume, by the way someone looks, that we NEED any man to survive... right Tidelines
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Old 07-11-2011, 11:46 AM
 
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Instead, they settle for some slinky little trouble-making parasite in blue Eye Shadow, and spend the rest of their days fantasizing about getting away from her.
This is the best part of this whole thread.

How's Lake O holding up, Gloria? My mother ship is down there right now while receiving cancer treatment in Portland. Heard it's a good year for ducks out on the lake.

Your posts are great...keep the gay lumberjack stuff coming please.
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Old 07-11-2011, 11:48 AM
 
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The fantasy, btw way, most likely has it's true roots in the poetry of Robert Service. Maybe in just that one line...."there's the land, have you seen it?"
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Old 07-11-2011, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Barrow Alaska
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So a guy asks why people move to Alaska, and somehow this forum goes into Gay Lumberjacks, Bible interpretation and odd Japanese music videos (yes i looked, and yes it was rather odd).

While i love the broad spectrum of views here, i wish the racism, and ardent zealotry for religions was given a rest here.

Anywho, thanks for the entertainment.
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Old 07-11-2011, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Default Yes Indeed!!

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So a guy asks why people move to Alaska, and somehow this forum goes into Gay Lumberjacks, Bible interpretation and odd Japanese music videos (yes i looked, and yes it was rather odd).

While i love the broad spectrum of views here, i wish the racism, and ardent zealotry for religions was given a rest here.

Anywho, thanks for the entertainment.
I do agree... always entertainment ...
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Old 07-11-2011, 02:43 PM
 
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Entertaining thread of the dregs of society...

You all need to watch the Confederate States of America movie... It chronicles what could have happened if the South won the civil war.
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Old 07-11-2011, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Barrow Alaska
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.... No really, just at a complete loss for words on one of those last statements.
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Old 07-11-2011, 04:07 PM
 
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Wait, wait, WAIT...

I thought everybody lived in Alaska for the sweet OMGSOCIALIST PFD dole?!?!

Damn it, I was counting on that check to solve all my problems!
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