What does -60 feel like? (Nenana, Koyuk: shops, moving, garage)

[dcbrewmeister]

Originally Posted by cjs123

HA--I asked someone that on one of my trips to Fairbanks. They were kind enough to not laugh at me--not in in my presence, anyway.

Figured it might be a silly question but at the same time, didn't know at what point things could flash-freeze!

Flash freeze involves nitrogen and (usually) dry ice...

You can, however, get frost bite in a very short time at -60... (exposed skin) If it's stage 1, 2, or 3 depends on how long you "hang out" in it...

[cjs123]

Yeah, I was thinking of flash-frozen meals (had some shipped once and always remembered that description).
I don't think I'd be hangin' outside in those temps for long, even all wrapped up.

[Metlakatla]

Alaska seafood typically isn't flash frozen using methods involving dry ice and liquid nitrogen. Most commercial flash freezers don't go much lower than -30. Don't take this to mean that things freeze instantly at those temps.; they don't. It takes a few minutes. They work by blowing even colder air onto the product.

[Glitch]

Originally Posted by cjs123

Yeah, I was thinking of flash-frozen meals (had some shipped once and always remembered that description).
I don't think I'd be hangin' outside in those temps for long, even all wrapped up.

If we can put people into space and bring them back alive, then there is absolutely no environment on the planet where we cannot do the same thing. If you are well protected, then you can endure any environment in comfort. The trick is knowing how much protection you will need. In that respect, I think cold is easier to adapt to than heat. If you are cold, you can always add another layer. If you are hot, there is only so much you can take off.

[cjs123]

Originally Posted by Glitch

If you are hot, there is only so much you can take off.

Ain't it the truth.

I moved to Arizona right before the infamous summer of 1990, when the temp soared to 122 and the airport runways buckled. I remember job hunting that day, driving my (now-deceased) black truck with no A/C. YOWZA! What a day that was.

I think everyone here can answer the question 'Where were you on that day in 1990 when...'

[dcbrewmeister]

Originally Posted by Metlakatla

Alaska seafood typically isn't flash frozen using methods involving dry ice and liquid nitrogen. Most commercial flash freezers don't go much lower than -30. Don't take this to mean that things freeze instantly at those temps.; they don't. It takes a few minutes. They work by blowing even colder air onto the product.

When I drove truck, I used to haul for M & M Mars... chocolate is frozen to keep it from cracking when going over the mountains - altitude causes it crack, or more precisely, changes in altitude.

The trailer was put into a "cooler" at zero degrees with the refer running, the product goes in at the same temp... giving you a "head start" for the cooling process. They know the trailer will never stay at zero, but it will stay below freezing - tattle tail in the box will "tell" on you if it doesn't.

They called it "flash freezing"...

[Glitch]

Originally Posted by cjs123

Ain't it the truth.

I moved to Arizona right before the infamous summer of 1990, when the temp soared to 122 and the airport runways buckled. I remember job hunting that day, driving my (now-deceased) black truck with no A/C. YOWZA! What a day that was.

I think everyone here can answer the question 'Where were you on that day in 1990 when...'

I use to live in Palmdale, CA, in the middle of the Mojave where +120°F in the shade was commonplace. I also remember finding that the +70°F night time temperatures were intolerably cold.

[espizarro]

-62 F? That sounds like great for a beach swim!!!

[cjs123]

Originally Posted by Glitch

I use to live in Palmdale, CA, in the middle of the Mojave where +120°F in the shade was commonplace. I also remember finding that the +70°F night time temperatures were intolerably cold.

But it's a dry heat, right???

[cjs123]

Originally Posted by espizarro

-62 F? That sounds like great for a beach swim!!!

Then do you float on a chunk of ice with a lawn chair and umbrella? I am conjuring up quite a picture here!